My beef with the “ANN are abstractions of the Brain” trope is that it is so vague that it is almost meaningless. It purposefully avoid all the things our models don’t include 1/2
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Replying to @r_chavarriaga @KordingLab and
The fact that
#ANNs are inspired by the#brain is regularly used it to promote the idea that (1)we do have good understanding of brain function or (2)that we’re close to#AGI. Both of them false. I’m afraid this trope (used to scare or to sell something) is not value-neutral 2/21 reply 0 retweets 6 likes -
By whom? Citations?
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I'm talking about general coverage of
#ANN, not only sci literature. One example is when reports of@DeepMindAI work on grid cells state that "AI (...) spontaneously developed electrical activity akin to that seen in the specialised brain cells" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/09/googles-ai-program-deepmind-learns-human-navigation-skills … 1/1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes -
Replying to @r_chavarriaga @KordingLab and
or when they say that "AI figures out human navigation" https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3032039/googles-deepmind-ai-figures-out-human-navigation … 2/
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Replying to @r_chavarriaga @KordingLab and
Obviously this is not necessarily
@DeepMindAI fault, and sloppy journalism plays a big role. But these are examples how a valid analogy often backfires when is interpreted literally. Unfortunately, that's the way is often used when pitching companies and many VCs buy it 3/1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @r_chavarriaga @KordingLab and
I'm a big believer that
#ANNs are a great tool to improve our knowledge of the brain, but often think the "ANN as abstraction of the brain" analogy does more harm than benefit /end2 replies 2 retweets 7 likes -
Replying to @r_chavarriaga @KordingLab and
You need to separate your concern about hype in the popular press from the use of ANNs in neuroscience. ANNs are a very useful model in neuroscience, and we shouldn't shy away from that because Deep Mind's PR ppl go a bit far sometimes.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @r_chavarriaga and
what have ANNs done for neuroscience, aside from serving as classifiers?
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @r_chavarriaga and
You don't actually keep up with the neuroscience literature, do you? That has been evident in these conversations... Here, lemme give you a few examples:
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Not going to respond to the below given the above. You can read my recent tweet on DiCarlo if you are interested in how I think about these things. Bye for now.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @r_chavarriaga and
I gave you many more papers than the Dicarlo paper, but okay, bye!
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @tyrell_turing and
I would be very interested in your thoughts on the DiCarlo lab's recent work, but I can't find the tweet you're referring to. Could you send me a link/re-tweet or something? Thanks.
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