astonished that anyone knowledgeable could claim that neural nets are (obviously) an “abstraction of neural processing” when we don’t yet know how brains work. if you don’t know how Y works you can’t really speak with certainty about whether X is an abstraction of Y. Period.https://twitter.com/tyrell_turing/status/1200072223299657728 …
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
Chemistry is an abstraction of physics, even while fundamental questions remain in the underlying layer...
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Replying to @danbri
at the moment we understand both chemistry and physics way way way better than we understand neuroscience.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
Huge mysteries remain everywhere but that is irrelevant to the matter of whether ANNs are some kind of abstraction
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Replying to @danbri
but relevant to how much confidence we should be expressing
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
it feels like your arguments shift with every tweet why not just say that you think (A)NNs are a poor or flawed abstraction, perhaps even one that will be eliminated by scientific progress it is most peculiar to demand that they not even be called an abstraction
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Replying to @danbri
i never said that couldn’t be called an attempt at an abstraction; the question is whether we can *confidently assume* they are a bona fide abstraction.
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i do see how my opening tweet could have been misread, esp if you didn’t read it relative to the tweet i responded to.
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I believe I read the whole thread. And even a few pre-arxiv things ;) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2025900?seq=1 … came to mind
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Gary Marcus Retweeted Gary Marcus
well no you missed this: https://twitter.com/garymarcus/status/1200237465837064192?s=21 …https://twitter.com/garymarcus/status/1200237465837064192 …
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