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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 28
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      Gary Marcus Retweeted Blake Richards

      astonished that anyone knowledgeable could claim that neural nets are (obviously) an “abstraction of neural processing” when we don’t yet know how brains work. if you don’t know how Y works you can’t really speak with certainty about whether X is an abstraction of Y. Period.https://twitter.com/tyrell_turing/status/1200072223299657728 …

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      Blake Richards @tyrell_turing
      Replying to @tyrell_turing @GaryMarcus and 5 others
      I am amazed at how many ppl resist this basic fact! Folks: you may believe ANNs miss critical biological details, cool, that's a legit position to take. But why pretend that ANNs are not an abstraction of neural processing? That is simply not a tenable position, frankly.
      45 replies 58 retweets 324 likes
    2. Martin Dinov‏ @martin_dinov Nov 28
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      I tend to agree with you @GaryMarcus, but surely there are different levels of abstraction/fidelity in how closely current artificial methods model the biological. We have *some* non-trivial understanding of the biological system, so speaking of abstractions seems very reasonable

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    3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 28
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      nobody said we shouldn't ponder potential abstractions; it's the moral certainty that i objected to, as being premature.

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    4. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Nov 29
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      Could it not be possible for a neural network to generate the 'potential abstractions' needed for complex cognition? ANNs the best models we have today for generating complex behavior. So why should he @tyrell_turing be taken to task for using the best known tools for his job?

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 29
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      sort of like claiming democracy is perfect when it’s not? current models haven’t come close to@solving vision, language, planning etc, so they are invitation to do serious out of box thinking.

      5:28 AM - 29 Nov 2019
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        1. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Nov 29
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          I don't disagree with the need for alternative models. But the methods required for research don't need to approximate human complete cognition. DL affords tools that are very good at mimicry and thus it makes sense for neuroscientists to drive their research using DL.

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