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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Nov 27
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      There's a major difference: DL was guided in its infancy by ideas from neuroscience, so there is a relatively direct link between them. In contrast, the application of quantum mechanics to the c-word is taking two distinct fields and tying them together on speculative grounds.

      3 replies 1 retweet 41 likes
    2. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 27
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and

      The relation between deep learning - with its single neuron type and largely homogenous architecture - and the actual complexity of the human brain, with > 1000 neuron types, hundreds of proteins at each synapse and > 100 distinct brain regions - is risible.

      2 replies 1 retweet 36 likes
    3. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Nov 27
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and

      Every model is an abstraction. Newtonian mechanics ignores air turbulence, molecular interactions, etc. Climate models capture coarse grained interactions, not the multitude of animals, plants, and wind-currents that truly shape the climate. Neural networks are no different.

      6 replies 4 retweets 35 likes
    4. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 28
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and

      Let's be real. Current neural nets have been shown empirically to work on some problems (after tinkering to get details right) - but do we really *know* that they are an abstraction of the brain, in which their details map onto simplifications of actual brain processes? No.

      3 replies 6 retweets 55 likes
    5. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Nov 28
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and

      I'm sorry, but this is a bad take. Yes, we know they are simplifications of real brains. 1) Neurons do something very similar to linear integration with a non-linearity. 2) They process inputs in a distributed, parallel manner. ANNs capture this basic process, period.

      5 replies 2 retweets 33 likes
    6. Eli Sennesh‏ @EliSennesh Nov 28
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @GaryMarcus and

      ANNs are almost entirely feedforward, though. We don't really have a good ANN abstraction of how feedback processing plays its part in the brain.

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    7. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Nov 28
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      Replying to @EliSennesh @GaryMarcus and

      No. ANNs are not entirely feed forward, most advanced models now incorporate recurrence.

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    8. Eli Sennesh‏ @EliSennesh Nov 28
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @GaryMarcus and

      And those recurrent models are nowhere near as well-studied and easy to engineer as the feed forward ones, nor do we know that their precise patterns of recurrence resemble the brain, rather than being useful engineering heuristics.

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    9. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing Nov 28
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      Replying to @EliSennesh @GaryMarcus and

      Fine, but this doesn't argue against my point! Again: if you think an ANN model misses key biological facts, fine. But do not try to pretend that ANNs are not at least an abstraction of neural computation. That's a silly position to take.

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    10. Chomba Bupe‏ @ChombaBupe Nov 28
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @EliSennesh and

      ANNs are cartoon versions of biological neural networks.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 28
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      Replying to @ChombaBupe @tyrell_turing and

      stick figures, to be specific

      6:33 PM - 28 Nov 2019
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