There's a major difference: DL was guided in its infancy by ideas from neuroscience, so there is a relatively direct link between them. In contrast, the application of quantum mechanics to the c-word is taking two distinct fields and tying them together on speculative grounds.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and
The relation between deep learning - with its single neuron type and largely homogenous architecture - and the actual complexity of the human brain, with > 1000 neuron types, hundreds of proteins at each synapse and > 100 distinct brain regions - is risible.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and
Every model is an abstraction. Newtonian mechanics ignores air turbulence, molecular interactions, etc. Climate models capture coarse grained interactions, not the multitude of animals, plants, and wind-currents that truly shape the climate. Neural networks are no different.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and
Let's be real. Current neural nets have been shown empirically to work on some problems (after tinkering to get details right) - but do we really *know* that they are an abstraction of the brain, in which their details map onto simplifications of actual brain processes? No.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and
I'm sorry, but this is a bad take. Yes, we know they are simplifications of real brains. 1) Neurons do something very similar to linear integration with a non-linearity. 2) They process inputs in a distributed, parallel manner. ANNs capture this basic process, period.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @GaryMarcus and
ANNs are almost entirely feedforward, though. We don't really have a good ANN abstraction of how feedback processing plays its part in the brain.
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Replying to @EliSennesh @GaryMarcus and
No. ANNs are not entirely feed forward, most advanced models now incorporate recurrence.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @GaryMarcus and
And those recurrent models are nowhere near as well-studied and easy to engineer as the feed forward ones, nor do we know that their precise patterns of recurrence resemble the brain, rather than being useful engineering heuristics.
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Replying to @EliSennesh @GaryMarcus and
Fine, but this doesn't argue against my point! Again: if you think an ANN model misses key biological facts, fine. But do not try to pretend that ANNs are not at least an abstraction of neural computation. That's a silly position to take.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @EliSennesh and
ANNs are cartoon versions of biological neural networks.
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stick figures, to be specific
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