Deep learning is to biological neural systems as quantum theory is to consciousness. @KordingLab @tyrell_turing @tdverstynen @GaryMarcus @GaryMarcus @danilobzdok @kendmil
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Replying to @neuro_data @KordingLab and
There's a major difference: DL was guided in its infancy by ideas from neuroscience, so there is a relatively direct link between them. In contrast, the application of quantum mechanics to the c-word is taking two distinct fields and tying them together on speculative grounds.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and
The relation between deep learning - with its single neuron type and largely homogenous architecture - and the actual complexity of the human brain, with > 1000 neuron types, hundreds of proteins at each synapse and > 100 distinct brain regions - is risible.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and
Every model is an abstraction. Newtonian mechanics ignores air turbulence, molecular interactions, etc. Climate models capture coarse grained interactions, not the multitude of animals, plants, and wind-currents that truly shape the climate. Neural networks are no different.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and
Let's be real. Current neural nets have been shown empirically to work on some problems (after tinkering to get details right) - but do we really *know* that they are an abstraction of the brain, in which their details map onto simplifications of actual brain processes? No.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and
I'm sorry, but this is a bad take. Yes, we know they are simplifications of real brains. 1) Neurons do something very similar to linear integration with a non-linearity. 2) They process inputs in a distributed, parallel manner. ANNs capture this basic process, period.
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Replying to @tyrell_turing @neuro_data and
1 & 2 are vague but true for some aspects of the brain, possibly not all, but at best only part of an answer. if you had something analogous to an alternator for a car, would that in itself mean that your alternator analogue captures the dynamics of an internal combustion engine?
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and
Okay, I'm not sure what you're not getting here. My claim is simply that there are aspects of neural computation that ANNs capture. That is a fact, not a hypothesis. Why are we even debating this?
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see my last couple tweets; approximating one component in isolation may or may not tell you anything
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @neuro_data and
No, it may not, but that is orthogonal to my point.
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