Gary Marcus on Twitter: "then again programs aren’t books and programmers aren’t authors in the sense that i meant. it will truly be exciting when AI can extract rich cognitive models from open-ended text.… https://t.co/gHwmcx0ANe"

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meetasengupta‏Verified account @Meetasengupta Nov 16

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Replying to @prem_k @learning_pt and

It's a worthy effort, but not reliable until proven. And given current evidence, not necessarily replicable.

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Pɾҽɱ Kυɱαɾ Aραɾαɳʝι‏ @prem_k Nov 16

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Right now, IMHO, knowing current progress in #NLProc, #AI has what you'd call "reading comprehension disability" in children (if I dare anthropomorphise machines just for this once, against @j2bryson's advice ) and that's not getting fixed soon enough for @GaryMarcus to relent.

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Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16

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That large proportions of people have reading skills lower than high-end NLP a) has been demonstrated by the @oecd b) hasn’t been taken adequately into account by the #agi #singularity #Futureofwork panic crowds.

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Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16

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more generally @j2bryson what does your tweet even mean? is there a typo? what OECD study? what was the metric? what implications? having a hard time making sense of what you said.

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Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16

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The limit case is obvious – some people are fully illiterate so lots of AI gets more from text than they do. I'm illiterate in Chinese, for example. The OECD at their 2017 AI meeting talked about a study that showed that 70% of EU citizens can't do analyses top-end AI can 1/2

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Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16

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Actually, the report of the 2017 @OECD meeting I participated in (AI: Intelligent Machines, Smart Policies :-) https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/f1a650d9-en.pdf?expires=1573939644&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=A76A1177FCC38BEE4F8E51BF870C358C … says on 11% of EU adults are above the level of AI (see picture), and cites this paper https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/computers-and-the-future-of-skill-demand_9789264284395-en …pic.twitter.com/SdwZWybDGx

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Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16

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What my tweet means is the fact that AI can in some sense read more than humans (certainly books remember longer & better...) doesn't actually make humans redundant to humans. 3/2 #aiethics

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Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16

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reading is ultimately about extracting a cognitive model of something an author writes about. books can’t do that; current AI can’t do that either. for now, only (literate) people can do that.

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François Chollet‏Verified account @fchollet Nov 16

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Machines do this for machine-readable languages (e.g. a compiler "reading" a codebase)

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Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16

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Replying to @fchollet @Grady_Booch and

agreed.

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Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16

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then again programs aren’t books and programmers aren’t authors in the sense that i meant. it will truly be exciting when AI can extract rich cognitive models from open-ended text.

3:32 PM - 16 Nov 2019