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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. meetasengupta‏Verified account @Meetasengupta Nov 16
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      It's a worthy effort, but not reliable until proven. And given current evidence, not necessarily replicable.

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    2. Pɾҽɱ Kυɱαɾ Aραɾαɳʝι‏ @prem_k Nov 16
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      Replying to @Meetasengupta @learning_pt and

      Right now, IMHO, knowing current progress in #NLProc, #AI has what you'd call "reading comprehension disability" in children (if I dare anthropomorphise machines just for this once, against @j2bryson's advice 😃) and that's not getting fixed soon enough for @GaryMarcus to relent.

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    3. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @prem_k @Meetasengupta and

      That large proportions of people have reading skills lower than high-end NLP a) has been demonstrated by the @oecd b) hasn’t been taken adequately into account by the #agi #singularity #Futureofwork panic crowds.

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    4. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @prem_k and

      more generally @j2bryson what does your tweet even mean? is there a typo? what OECD study? what was the metric? what implications? having a hard time making sense of what you said.

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    5. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @prem_k and

      The limit case is obvious – some people are fully illiterate so lots of AI gets more from text than they do. I'm illiterate in Chinese, for example. The OECD at their 2017 AI meeting talked about a study that showed that 70% of EU citizens can't do analyses top-end AI can 1/2

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    6. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @GaryMarcus and

      Actually, the report of the 2017 @OECD meeting I participated in (AI: Intelligent Machines, Smart Policies :-) https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/f1a650d9-en.pdf?expires=1573939644&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=A76A1177FCC38BEE4F8E51BF870C358C … says on 11% of EU adults are above the level of AI (see picture), and cites this paper https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/computers-and-the-future-of-skill-demand_9789264284395-en …pic.twitter.com/SdwZWybDGx

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    7. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @GaryMarcus and

      What my tweet means is the fact that AI can in some sense read more than humans (certainly books remember longer & better...) doesn't actually make humans redundant to humans. 3/2 #aiethics

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    8. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @prem_k and

      reading is ultimately about extracting a cognitive model of something an author writes about. books can’t do that; current AI can’t do that either. for now, only (literate) people can do that.

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    9. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @prem_k and

      I partially agree. Reading (or language understanding more generally) is about doing something sensible with linguistic input. AI can do that better than people in many circumstances. I agree books don't really do anything, and that humans are special to humans, but…

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    10. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @GaryMarcus and

      …but I don't believe that a "cognitive model" is a sensible delineation. I don't think there's one shape of model all humans & no machines use. This dichotomy is already harder than we generally acknowledge, but that this in no way undermines humans' special ethical status…

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @prem_k and

      strawperson alert. i didn’t say one model i said “models”; to some extent we each build our own, but there is also some degree of convergence.

      2:42 PM - 16 Nov 2019
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        2. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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          Replying to @GaryMarcus

          you said "a cognitive model" but anyway I wasn't assuming a single model, you're the one who just made the straw person. Please don't be defensive, I do respect you & honestly want to communicate.

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        3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16
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          Replying to @j2bryson

          “I don't think there's one shape of model all humans & no machines use” is what i was responding to. everyone who reads The Hobbit comes away with some idea of who Bilbo is & who Gandalf is & what is unusual about the ring. Can any AI do that?

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