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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. www.TheLearningPoint.net  💙‏ @learning_pt Nov 16
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      Replying to @butsandifs @prem_k and

      the ISI proposal is AI more on the lines of computer-vision probably about reading the final answer via OCR (numeric, perhaps?) and then checking it & grading it - might not be the same as grading an open ended essay which is a lot more complex

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    2. meetasengupta‏Verified account @Meetasengupta Nov 16
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      Replying to @learning_pt @butsandifs and

      Afaik, essays have also been graded by machines, feedback given and when asked, students could not tell the difference between a mechanized TA and a real person. This was a watershed moment in machine assessment.

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    3. Pɾҽɱ Kυɱαɾ Aραɾαɳʝι‏ @prem_k Nov 16
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      Replying to @Meetasengupta @learning_pt and

      My understanding was (I came across this since we use #NLProc at work) that it's not as great as it was initially advertised.https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa7dj9/flawed-algorithms-are-grading-millions-of-students-essays …

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    4. Pɾҽɱ Kυɱαɾ Aραɾαɳʝι‏ @prem_k Nov 16
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      Replying to @prem_k @Meetasengupta and

      And that's, I think, why ISI wants to remove bias. Though I think they would also want to make their #ML fair.

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    5. meetasengupta‏Verified account @Meetasengupta Nov 16
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      Replying to @prem_k @learning_pt and

      It's a worthy effort, but not reliable until proven. And given current evidence, not necessarily replicable.

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    6. Pɾҽɱ Kυɱαɾ Aραɾαɳʝι‏ @prem_k Nov 16
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      Replying to @Meetasengupta @learning_pt and

      Right now, IMHO, knowing current progress in #NLProc, #AI has what you'd call "reading comprehension disability" in children (if I dare anthropomorphise machines just for this once, against @j2bryson's advice 😃) and that's not getting fixed soon enough for @GaryMarcus to relent.

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    7. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @prem_k @Meetasengupta and

      That large proportions of people have reading skills lower than high-end NLP a) has been demonstrated by the @oecd b) hasn’t been taken adequately into account by the #agi #singularity #Futureofwork panic crowds.

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    8. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @prem_k and

      more generally @j2bryson what does your tweet even mean? is there a typo? what OECD study? what was the metric? what implications? having a hard time making sense of what you said.

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    9. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @prem_k and

      The limit case is obvious – some people are fully illiterate so lots of AI gets more from text than they do. I'm illiterate in Chinese, for example. The OECD at their 2017 AI meeting talked about a study that showed that 70% of EU citizens can't do analyses top-end AI can 1/2

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    10. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @GaryMarcus and

      Actually, the report of the 2017 @OECD meeting I participated in (AI: Intelligent Machines, Smart Policies :-) https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/f1a650d9-en.pdf?expires=1573939644&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=A76A1177FCC38BEE4F8E51BF870C358C … says on 11% of EU adults are above the level of AI (see picture), and cites this paper https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/computers-and-the-future-of-skill-demand_9789264284395-en …pic.twitter.com/SdwZWybDGx

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 16
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      Replying to @j2bryson @prem_k and

      would appreciate a PDF. the claims make very little sense to me and i would like to see the actual metrics.

      1:42 PM - 16 Nov 2019
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        1. Joanna J Bryson‏ @j2bryson Nov 16
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          Replying to @GaryMarcus

          sorry, just saw this, going down from the top on the twitter web interface :-/ @tweetbot is so much better!

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