My PhD thesis is one example. Slow feature analysis had a proof-of-concept too. Note that visual cortex is NOT convolutional...and this is an example of something you can learn from neuroscience, which you tend to ignore :) http://alpha.tmit.bme.hu/speech/docs/education/02_DileepThesis.pdf …
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Replying to @dileeplearning @WiringTheBrain and
i don't think we really know how cortex does translation invariance.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @WiringTheBrain and
i think we know quite a bit about it.
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Replying to @dileeplearning @WiringTheBrain and
Well, your thesis gives some well-known facts about cortical circuits and derives one possible theory of what those circuits might be doing, but I don't think there is anything like proof there, unless there is some recent study I don't know about.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @WiringTheBrain and
Gary you know this well, there is nothing called proof is science. This is not mathematics. We can talk about evidence...
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Replying to @dileeplearning @WiringTheBrain and
sure, but i don't think there is compelling evidence; feel free to lay it out if you disagree. but no neuroscientist that i have spoken with in last six months (or six years) is of the opinion that there is anything yet like clarity about how the brain works. cc
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @WiringTheBrain and
It could be that you are asking the wrong questions to these neuroscientists. If you ask "do you know how the brain works" they will say no, and mostly cog-scientists will say no if you ask them "do you know how the mind works?".
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Replying to @dileeplearning @GaryMarcus and
That's assuming you talk to the honest ones. Many of them will in fact say yes and then start waving their hands and draw useless diagrams on a whiteboard.
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Replying to @filippie509 @GaryMarcus and
Agree. "Do you know how the brain/mind works" is also the wrong question. Gary doesn't know how the mind works...why are neurocientists held to a different standard from cogsci?
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Replying to @dileeplearning @filippie509 and
not holding neuroscientists in general to that; challenging a particular assumption (yours) that you can rule anything out with certainty about a system that is so poorly understood.
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and notice the irony please; you've got me defending @ylecun's theory as a (possible) model of (one aspect) of the brain (which @ylecun himself doesn't do)
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @filippie509 and
yeah :) , and I am with
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Replying to @dileeplearning @filippie509 and
actually i think
@ylecun's view maybe is that we don't know, which would put him in the awkward position of agreeing with me :)0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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