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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 1
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    Gary Marcus Retweeted Curt Langlotz

    anyone else hearing this? it may fit with my recent essay w @MaxALittle that argued that, for now, AI-driven radiology is best seen as an adjunct to humans, rather than a replacement. [https://www-new.statnews.com/2019/10/23/advancing-ai-health-care-trust/ …]https://twitter.com/curtlanglotz/status/1190143447291719682 …

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    Curt Langlotz @curtlanglotz
    Hearing about layoffs at some prominent radiology AI companies. Suggests the AI bubble may be deflating... pic.twitter.com/FMHfdt6lNT
    5:30 AM - 1 Nov 2019
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      2. Joel Selanikio‏ @jselanikio Nov 1
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @MaxALittle

        Possibly, but afaik most current AI rad companies are positioning products to augment human radiologists (not replace them). So layoffs in those companies, IF they’re happening, and not related to other economic factors, wouldn’t be an indictment of the replacement model.

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      3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Nov 1
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        Replying to @jselanikio @MaxALittle

        i don’t think it is *possible* to build a full replacement for a human radiologists at this point; no sane business would aim to do so in the near term. but see eg this from last year https://www.jacr.org/article/S1546-1440(18)30389-2/fulltext … and Hinton’s famous coyote quote

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      2. Raym Geis‏ @quantrad Nov 1
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        For most current radiology CVML, dataset shift is an unresolved problem, use cases are narrow and (ethical) business cases are unproven.

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      3. Max Little‏ @MaxALittle Nov 1
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        Agreed. Also: lack of interpretability. The ethical issues are being mishandled; use of AI, even if it actually worked, requires informed consent yet I do not hear any mention of this.

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      1. Julian Harris‏ @julianharris Nov 1
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @MaxALittle

        @EricTopol's Deep Medicine is one source I learnt that suggested that the forward-thinking medical institutions will use technology to free up radiologists to have more time with patients. They have a uniquely impartial view on diagnosis that can be useful.

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      1. Simon Brocklehurst‏ @SMBrocklehurst Nov 1
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        It wouldn't be that surprising if true. How many of these companies have anything close to unique technology? How many have unique (and large) datasets? How many are solving *real* business problems (as opposed to developing narrow AIs that work badly)? My guess: not many.

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      2.  🚗E 🚌P 🚚D 🚲  ☂️‏ @EricPaulDennis Nov 1
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        Replying to @GaryMarcus @MaxALittle

        ALL of those logos are radiology AI companies? Wow

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      3. John Hayes‏ @ghosthayes Nov 1
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        Replying to @EricPaulDennis @GaryMarcus @MaxALittle

        Pure Storage definitely isn’t a radiology AI company.

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      1. Peter Seeberg‏ @seeberg_peter Nov 19
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        Berlin based Merantix Healthcare received CE approval for ML based breast cancer screening platform, automatically filtering out negative cases. Will the radiologist dealing with 5 instead of 100 cases lead to structural changes? You tell me!

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