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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 28
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      Gary Marcus Retweeted Thomas G. Dietterich

      Strawman alert: To extent @tdietterich directed this line at me "I object to the argument that says “Today’s deep learning-based systems don’t exhibit genuine understanding, and therefore deep learning should be abandoned" it is an absolute misrepresentation of my position. 1/2https://twitter.com/tdietterich/status/1188551504388452352 …

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      Thomas G. Dietterich @tdietterich
      I just published What does it mean for a machine to ‘understand’? https://link.medium.com/vvNZ4pks80  1/
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    2. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 28
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      My *actual* position is NOT that we should abandon deep learning, nor that deep learning can't get us to shallow understanding in sense @tdietterich has described, but that deep learning *alone* can't get us to deep understanding. Chp 4 of http://rebooting.ai  explains 2/2

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    3. Matthieu Thiboust‏ @mthiboust Oct 28
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @tdietterich

      Lack of shared definition makes this discussion a never-ending debate. If you define "deep understanding" as "human-level understanding", I guess that all AI algos (connectionist/symbolic/hybrid) will fall short of reaching this goal except if they model human brain mechanisms

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    4. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 28
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      Replying to @mthiboust @tdietterich

      Lack of reading hurts a lot too; we gave many examples in Chapter 4 of http://Rebooting.AI ; not one of my critics has actually gone through those examples and given a counteranalysis.

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    5. Matthieu Thiboust‏ @mthiboust Oct 28
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @tdietterich

      Please, don't take me wrong. I found your examples very informative in your inspirational book. My point was just that we need to separate the different meanings of the word "understanding" to foster progress on this topic. Not an easy job, but a needed step in my opinion

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    6. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 28
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      Replying to @mthiboust @tdietterich

      i am fine (as said elsewhere) distinguishing shallow b deep understanding; chapter 4 was about why text processing isn’t deep enough understanding

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 28
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @mthiboust @tdietterich

      my larger point (not directed to you) is that this whole discussion would improve if framed around an analysis of whether chapter 4 is accurate, rather than soundbites.

      7:27 AM - 28 Oct 2019
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        2. Patrick Oliveras‏ @OliverasPatrick Oct 28
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          Replying to @GaryMarcus @mthiboust @tdietterich

          I'd give a go at it, but Twitter isn't a great place for things other than soundbites

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        3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 28
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          Replying to @OliverasPatrick @mthiboust @tdietterich

          how about medium?

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