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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 19
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      Since @OpenAI still has not changed misleading blog post about "solving the Rubik's cube", I attach detailed analysis, comparing what they say and imply with what they actually did. IMHO most would not be obvious to nonexperts. Please zoom in to read & judge for yourself.pic.twitter.com/R7HgnyyNRj

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    2. Woj Zaremba‏ @woj_zaremba Oct 19
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @OpenAI

      1. The first three of your arguments are the same. 2. The generalization is from simulation to reality. It’s not between objects. 3. We have results with not instrumented object which are slightly weaker. 4. Are you convinced that we won’t push performance to 100%?

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    3. un1crom‏ @un1crom Oct 20
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      You will not get to 100%. Humans do not manipulate objects at 100% and your mimicking human movement with different stuff etc. there’s no possibility to go from 20% to 100%.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 20
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      how often does a typical human solver drop a cube? once in 100 tries? 1000? 10,000? no, human won't be literally 100% but very close, and without an instrumented cube (but with better haptic fingers, to be sure). 20% really doesn't compare.

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        1. un1crom‏ @un1crom Oct 20
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          ha. Yup. Humans hands/arms have far more degrees of freedom than that robot hand. The computers running it dont have nearly enough memory to handle it and the structures of that robot hand lack the material/muscle memory. Spend more money on structure than computation....

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        2. un1crom‏ @un1crom Oct 20
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          Humans bodies coevolved around blocks and other geometric solids. Our bodies have the physics encoded deeply within our muscle, ligament and other physiology. That robot and it’s algos are digital at such a high level.

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        3. un1crom‏ @un1crom Oct 20
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          I’d wager that a human one handed manipulating to solve a Rubik’s cube will drop it at least 20% of the time - using dominant hand. Esp. for hands smaller than the cube. There’s no accounting for even anything close to variability of the lived experience in most this research.

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        2. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience Oct 20
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          And you plan to solve this problem exactly how? By adding innate symbolic knowledge to the robotic hand? Let's see. Rule 1: IF finger A is curled 30% THEN curl finger B 20%. Rule n: IF bleep THEN bloop ... Repeat 100 million times. Hybrid AI is fun. LOL. 😁

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        3. un1crom‏ @un1crom Oct 20
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          Symbolics really just means algebraic/geometric. It’s not a matter of if then or probabilistic assessment. Symbolic reasoning is ontological. What actually exists not what might be or what is anologous. A Rubik’s cube always has a definite solution. By definition.

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