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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 17
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      Replying to @halhod @beenwrekt and

      if they showed that in some general way that wasn't one (pre-rigged) object, I could maybe sorta squint and see that point. but sim to real with one overlearned prerigged object is a joke. no respectable academic journal would buy that argument.

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    2. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord Oct 17
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      They do have unseen modifications e.g. finger tying. While it's just one object, I really hope you appreciate how hard this must have been to pull off. While I'm with you that the PR is a bit silly, this is a significant advance.

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    3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 17
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      Replying to @Zergylord @halhod and

      Indeed your last sentence is not far my original assessment, repeated above, that "[despite the other misrepresentations] system is (very impressively) trained to do the perception and manual dexterity parts." I do remain skeptical that demo w 1 prerigged object solves sim->real.

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    4. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord Oct 17
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      There is a big gap between "solving sim->real" and "joke". Did anyone actually claim the former? It's an advance in sim2real capabilities that is significant while falling short of the hype.

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    5. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 17
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      Replying to @Zergylord @halhod and

      can you really infer that from this demo?

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    6. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord Oct 17
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @halhod and

      Nope, but from the paper, yes.

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    7. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 17
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      Replying to @Zergylord @halhod and

      any predictions of generalizability ito novel, uninstrumented objects you would like to put money on? & why so confident?

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    8. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord Oct 17
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @halhod and

      They definitely didn't solve that problem, but did make progress on a much simpler problem that hadn't been previously solved. I'm confident its an advance because the bar is *so* low. Getting a shadow hand to do anything is difficult, as is closing the simulation gap.

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    9. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 17
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      Replying to @Zergylord @halhod and

      so what is the specific problem you do think they solved and what do think it’s scope and limits are?

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    10. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord Oct 17
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @halhod and

      I wouldn't say they "solved" anything. They made progress on the problem of getting the shadow hand to perform a dextrous manipulation task via sim2real. Shouldn't have to speculate about the future capabilities to appreciate that.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 17
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      Replying to @Zergylord @halhod and

      wow! imagine if the title of the paper had been the modest and accurate “progress on the problem getting a shadow hand to perform a dextrous manipulation hand via sim2real”. @OpenAI you wouldn’t have heard a peep from me.

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