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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 15
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      no it is not innate for any person; only for machines like this one.

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    2. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Oct 15
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      For this implementation. But Rubik's Cube solving can be learned by a neural network.

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    3. Dagmar Monett‏ @dmonett Oct 15
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @GaryMarcus @OpenAI

      NN for solving the Rubik's Cube would be like killing a mosquito with an artillery bomb: not necessary at all.

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    4. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Oct 16
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      Although not related to the OpenAI paper. Solving Rubik's Cube via Deep Learning shows that you can teach a system to learn how to solve the problem. That's a very different problem that programming the God algorithm.

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    5. Mark Burgess‏ @markburgess_osl Oct 16
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      Isn't that a trivial observation about sequences? More interesting is whether i) it is cost efficient, ii) the solution is generalisable, iii) whether we learn anything from the solution. You can dig a hole with sieve but is it the best tool?

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    6. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Oct 16
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      Training a system to implement an algorithm on its own is a different problem than formulating a solution by hand. Now if a DL can discover the God solution, then that's a massive breakthrough.

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    7. Dagmar Monett‏ @dmonett Oct 16
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      Go a step back: when you already know the solution and the exact steps to get there (plus how to do it in a much simpler and straightforward way), you don't need #DeepLearning to figure it out.

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    8. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Oct 16
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      You don't know how a cube is scrambled. That's not a given.

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    9. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Oct 16
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      An automated algorithm to solve the Rubik's cube took humanity 7 years to discover: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimal_solutions_for_Rubik%27s_Cube …

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    10. Shital Shah‏ @sytelus Oct 16
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      Solving Rubik cube through RL is already done before and so I believe @openai goal wasn’t that. The focus was real-world manipulation task and sim2real.https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-019-0070-z …

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 16
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      Replying to @sytelus @IntuitMachine and

      i agree that the focus was on dexterity, and gave credit, but think they could have presented work much more clearly, without obscuring key issues, and without leading lay people to think that the part that seems hard to lay people was acquired v learning when it was not.

      6:06 AM - 16 Oct 2019
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        1. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Oct 16
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          Perhaps it's because lay people think hand dexterity is easy and Rubik's cube solving is hard. The intuitions of lay people about what is difficult in AI is mostly wrong!

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