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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 13
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      Oped arguing that the Human Genome Project was a dud. I don't fully agree, but I do agree that a sequence of nucleotides on its own is not enough & there hasn't been as much short-term fruit as was widely hoped.https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/10/13/was-the-human-genome-project-a-dud/ …

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    2. Luke Oakden-Rayner‏ @DrLukeOR Oct 13
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      I've always found the majority of senior genomics researchers are in strong agreement (that it has all been a disappointment). I personally feel like we learned a lot about the problems with analysing massive datasets with tens of thousands of variables, and that is valuable.

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    3. Luke Oakden-Rayner‏ @DrLukeOR Oct 13
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      Replying to @DrLukeOR @GaryMarcus

      The real question is do we double down with other omics (epigenomics, proteomics, microbiomics, etc.) or do we assume that all off this is nonsense, and if there were big effects (and targets) they would have been discovered by traditional science?

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    4. Vidur Mahajan‏ @VidurMahajan1 Oct 13
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      The title of the post should have been 'The HGP has not yielded any results in depression as yet'. Calling the entire project a 'dud' simply means the author has absolutely no idea how much ALL next-gen sequencing testing relies on the HGP today.

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    5. Vidur Mahajan‏ @VidurMahajan1 Oct 13
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      It's literally impossible to even know whether a patient has a pathogenic brca mutation or not without having the human reference genome. And then, of course there's the whole field of Onco targeted therapies. Very rare that I get worked up about random articles.

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    6. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 13
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      you may have a point but eg could you some of that with specific reference points (eg data on brca) rather than whole genome? how much (not a rhetorical question) does full genome buy you?

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    7. Vidur Mahajan‏ @VidurMahajan1 Oct 13
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      Not sure I get the question exactly, but here goes. Everytime you sequence the genome of a patient (for any reason, let's say ascertaining brca mutations) you need to compare what sequence you get against the human reference genome. This comparison gives you 'variants'.

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    8. Vidur Mahajan‏ @VidurMahajan1 Oct 13
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      These variants are then analysed to see whether they are disease causing (pathogenic) or not (benign). The entire genetic testing and targeted therapy industry relies on this.

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    9. Vidur Mahajan‏ @VidurMahajan1 Oct 13
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      Replying to @VidurMahajan1 @GaryMarcus @DrLukeOR

      So essentially, every human genome sequenced, for whatever purpose, anywhere on the planet, uses the reference human genome as a baseline.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 13
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      but you could test a specific locus pre HGP, no? eg the original BRCA work preceded first draft of HGP by several years. as i say i didn’t entirely agree with the piece, but thought it was provocative.

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        2. Vidur Mahajan‏ @VidurMahajan1 Oct 13
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          Yes! But HGP enables searching of new loci.. Etc etc..

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        3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Oct 13
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          sure. but because of epistasis etc those searches have only been modestly successful, as i understand it. to my mind the question isn’t so much whether there is value in the genome as how much we are as yet in position to extract

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