advocates of #machinelearning, I am told that you all know that (current) #ML is limited. fair enough. but which limits are you willing to *publicly* acknowledge?https://twitter.com/NotSimplicio/status/1173373706674085888 …
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
Many limitations in the sense that they're active topics and we don't have answers yet (out-of-distribution testing, not "understanding" at the right level of abstraction, causality, etc), but I wouldn't classify any needing a paradigmatic shift of techniques
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Replying to @santoroAI @GaryMarcus
Given it's not really falsifiable to say "a neural network can't do this", and yet there may be things out there that work much better than deep learning for much of this - at what point would you say a paradigmatic shift *is* needed? What's the threshold?
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Replying to @pfau @GaryMarcus
Maybe this isn't really answering your question, but like you say there are many (known) techniques that work better than deep learning for certain problems. Hence, no paradigmatic shift needed, since we already have the tools. Maybe just a new way of putting pieces together?
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Perhaps another way of saying this is that I don't imagine a totally new *field* (in the likes of statistics, machine learning, etc) being invented over the next 50-100 years to address the problems we're facing now.
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Replying to @santoroAI @pfau
I do. That's the difference between you and me. The one I imagine is all about integrating prior knowledge better with current techniques.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @pfau
Is that more an engineering challenge or does it require new theories, radical changes of perspective, etc? My hunch is the former, which I don't think constitutes a new field per se
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Replying to @santoroAI @pfau
We wrote a whole book on why our answer is different (though we do include a lengthy section on engineering practice); would be happy to continue the discussion once you have digested.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @pfau
Just finished Rebooting AI, actually. Is this the book you're referring to?
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ps thanks for reading it, and the chapter on reading might be a good place to start, since that is the first place in which we try to deeply articulate a mismatch between current techniques and what is needed to solve the problem.
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