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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Sep 15
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      Gary Marcus Retweeted NotSimplicio

      advocates of #machinelearning, I am told that you all know that (current) #ML is limited. fair enough. but which limits are you willing to *publicly* acknowledge?https://twitter.com/NotSimplicio/status/1173373706674085888 …

      Gary Marcus added,

      NotSimplicio @NotSimplicio
      Is Machine Learning limited? #AI #ArtificialIntelligence https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1170912860815396864 …
      29 replies 34 retweets 114 likes
    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Sep 15
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus

      Different ML researchers have different degrees of optimism, but the position that current methods will carry us all the way to general AI seems to be rare. And in public, AI skepticism has always been a much more popular position to take.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Sep 15
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      Most AI practitioners don't look for general AI, and don't even have public opinions on it. ML is all about experimental statistics, and if you say that out loud, you will probably not meet with much resistance.

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    4. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Sep 15
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      and i still await examples from ML practitioners about the limits they are willing to *publicly* acknowledge.

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Sep 15
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      I don't think that folks have problems to rattle off lists of things that are notoriously difficult, unsolved and under researched. OTOH, there are no hard proofs of insufficiency of current approaches. You'll need to move past hand waving.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Sep 15
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      Most serious researchers will refrain from both stating unproven limits, and from promising success using the current set of methods.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Sep 15
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      yes they take the lack of proofs as a form of inoculation. and then claim they know the limits already when i point them out. totally inconsistent.

      5:15 PM - 15 Sep 2019
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        1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz Sep 15
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          The limit is that practitioners don't know how to achieve X with the currently fashionable methods, which they readily acknowledge. If you are overstating your case ("it cannot be done"), you weaken your argument and will be taken less seriously.

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