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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Murray Shanahan‏ @mpshanahan Aug 21
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      I haven't read Gary's book yet, but I doubt he's advocating 'endowing machines with common sense' (his words) 'in the obvious way was tried for 50 years' (Felix's words)

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    2. Murray Shanahan‏ @mpshanahan Aug 21
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      Replying to @mpshanahan @GaryMarcus and

      I'm inclined to agree that a focus on 'common sense and deep understanding' is the right approach. But I suspect it can be done with deep learning and the right architecture

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    3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Aug 21
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      Replying to @mpshanahan @FelixHill84 @santoroAI

      of course, a lot rests on what you mean by right architecture, and whether you include symbol-manipulation (which we argue is a key component) in that scope. you and i probably ultimately agree on the value of *hybrid* architecture.

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    4. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Aug 21
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      I think we can agree that the brain has specialized components that work in concert to achieve human cognition. We can furthermore agree that each of these components is built of specialized neural networks. Hybrid architectures are a stepping stone towards more general kinds.

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    5. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Aug 21
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      Replying to @IntuitMachine @mpshanahan and

      if you have specialized components that operate under different principles, you have hybrid systems.

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    6. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Aug 21
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      Neuroscientists will unanimously agree that every specialized component of the brain is made of up of neural networks.

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    7. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Aug 21
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      of course. as i have written numerous times, the question is not whether the brain is a neural network, but rather what *kinds* of neural networks the brain uses, whether they have anything to do with the tools in Ml, and what sorts of computations they implement.

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    8. Abel.TM‏ @Abel_TorresM Aug 21
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @IntuitMachine and

      Indeed. E.g. we cannot solve intelligence under the feedforward networks paradigm which seems particularly suited for motor control but not for reasoning and general problem solving. NNs with supervised learning based on 'output' values are nowhere to be seen in the brain

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    9. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Aug 21
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      Replying to @Abel_TorresM @IntuitMachine and

      oh, i think the brain does some supervised learning, even if we aren’t sure yet of the mechanisms.

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    10. Abel.TM‏ @Abel_TorresM Aug 21
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @IntuitMachine and

      Agree, supervision is present, but how? Kids don't create a 'dog's representation by hearing the word in the presence of the animal: they associate the label to a representation they *already had created* by other mechanisms; plus, supervised information comes also in the *input*

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Aug 21
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      ostensive learning through labels is a small part of language but it certainly does happen. and people can learn all kinds of things if they get direct feedback on their errors. supervised learning exits; but it’s just one mechanism of learning among many.

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        2. Carlos E. Perez  🧢‏ @IntuitMachine Aug 21
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          Replying to @GaryMarcus @Abel_TorresM and

          The kind of learning that humans employ may be entirely different from the supervised learning we find in deep learning (DL). There is no compelling evidence that DL is how even simple animals learn. DL is an alien kind of intuition that isn't found in biology.

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        3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Aug 21
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          Replying to @IntuitMachine @Abel_TorresM and

          certainly.

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