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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Feb 16
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    Gary Marcus Retweeted Grady Booch

    completely agree: remarkable ≠ semantically coherent. system has no idea that a unicorn has one horn, blithely asserts it has four, etc. simultaneously close and not close to Searle’s room, not at all close to genuine understanding.https://twitter.com/Grady_Booch/status/1096841495519232000 …

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    Grady BoochVerified account @Grady_Booch
    Replying to @GaryMarcus @MaxALittle
    It is remarkable. However... While Searle would have loved it, there is no understanding going on here. (Sigh. IMHO an intelligent system really has to build models of the world/others/self for that...otherwise you are just regurgitating symbols).
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      2. Steven Hansen‏ @Zergylord Feb 16
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        Seems like you're moving the yardstick here. It's coherent wrt entities often over whole paragraphs. Certainly that falls into the camp of things "deep learning shouldn't do". Obviously it's not solving the common sense problem, but it's hard to argue that it's not a step forward

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      3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Feb 16
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        if i did same with n-grams where n > 50, yielding similar local coherence, would you insist that I count that as progress? we may not have had the data or compute in 1960s, but we have long known that local quasi-coherence can be captured that way - without real understanding

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      2. Ben Sprecher‏ @bensprecher Feb 16
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        Then why is it getting decent Winograd scores (a test you originally made me aware of when pointing out BERT's shortcomings)? I asked if one could just throw 10x more data at it and you indicated that wasn't feasible. Are we there yet?https://twitter.com/bensprecher/status/1071651722181849088?s=19 …

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        Ben Sprecher @bensprecher
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        BERT is achieving state of the art performance on a broad range of tests, but not - you are correct - the GLUE WLNI due (at least implied in the paper) to an issue with the construction of the data set. Taking a step back, I think you are looking for logical symbolic 1/
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      3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Feb 16
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        Decent, not great, because of some modest correlations? Hard for me to say much without seeing any of the data and without access to the model. Would be interesting to see if it asymptotes or improves with eg 10x or more data.

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      2. Natesh Ganesh‏ @GaneshNatesh Feb 16
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        "..simultaneously close and not close to Searle's room." We have gone quantum...it's now Schroedinger's room. PS: have you written about your thoughts on Searles room?

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      1. Max Marion‏ @maxisawesome538 Feb 16
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        How can we be "close and not close to Searle's room?" it's either a program and thus the Chinese room or not. Seems like a program to me.

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      1. Daniel Campos‏ @spacemanidol Feb 16
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        Your comments beg the question: does an intelligent being need to have understanding?

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