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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Shlomo Engelson Argamon‏ @ShlomoArgamon Jan 5
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      Shlomo Engelson Argamon Retweeted Grady Booch

      Of course, computational power isn't the real limiting factor for general #AI, anyway. We will need fundamental advances in understanding common sense knowledge and reasoning to achieve extrapolative AI rather than our current interpolative AI.https://twitter.com/Grady_Booch/status/1081740548627550209 …

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      Grady BoochVerified account @Grady_Booch
      “We’re approaching the limits of what massive data combined with hordes of computers can do.” https://mindmatters.ai/2019/01/will-artificial-intelligence-design-artificial-super-intelligence/ …
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    2. Thomas G. Dietterich‏ @tdietterich Jan 5
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      But it could well be that we achieve those advances using even more vast amounts of data

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    3. Shlomo Engelson Argamon‏ @ShlomoArgamon Jan 5
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      Anything is possible, in the realm of the unknown. But there is no reason to believe it - data-reliant methods have not achieved (to my knowledge) even a tiny advance in common-sense reasoning. @GaryMarcus? @witbrock?

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    4. Thomas G. Dietterich‏ @tdietterich Jan 5
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      Replying to @ShlomoArgamon @GaryMarcus @witbrock

      "Common sense" is knowledge about the everyday world. Do you think it is innate, or is it learned from experience? I'm betting on experience, at least for common sense about the physical world. 1/

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    5. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Jan 5
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      some of it is obviously learned, but why would you think it is all learned, despite a billion years of evolution shaping neural development and a significant cognitive development literature on innateness?

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    6. Thomas G. Dietterich‏ @tdietterich Jan 5
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      These are good points. I guess I was thinking about whether it COULD be done with a pure learning approach. Of course the most practical approach might be related to the Belbute paper I mentioned: wrap ML around a physics engine.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Jan 5
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      Belbute-Peres et al certainly is fascinating, @tdietterich, but if truth looked like that, @ShlomoArgamon & I would celebrate. It has a huge amount of innate structure, eg position & velocity vectors for objects, constraints on friction, even priors re color schemes in Breakout

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        1. Shlomo Engelson Argamon‏ @ShlomoArgamon Jan 5
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          Indeed. The thing is, we don’t know how to create that sort of innate structure for much common sense physics, not to mention social interaction

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        2. Thomas G. Dietterich‏ @tdietterich Jan 5
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          By "truth" I assume you mean human intelligence. I totally agree. But I think it could be an excellent engineering solution.

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        3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus Jan 5
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          I would feel vindicated there as well, inasmuch as adding innateness to AI is what I advocated here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.05667.pdf …

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