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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 20 Dec 2018
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      Gary Marcus Retweeted Dan Brickley

      Indeed, once upon a time, Hinton was interested in the same sorts of unification that I believe to be so important.https://twitter.com/danbri/status/1075653592596377600 …

      Gary Marcus added,

      Cover of book, Connectionist Symbol Processing, edited by Geoffrey Hinton
      Dan Brickley @danbri
      Finally, the godfather of Deep Learning is paying attention to @GaryMarcus 's critique... pic.twitter.com/V4MdPNVM5h
      5 replies 14 retweets 62 likes
    2. Yann LeCun‏ @ylecun 21 Dec 2018
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      Correction: you are attempting to hijack an opinion that Hinton was arguing for in 1991, while you were still in a larval stage. Hinton's view on the topic hasn't changed: how to implement reasoning with neurons and make it compatible with gradient-based learning.

      7 replies 22 retweets 128 likes
    3. Abel.TM‏ @Abel_TorresM 21 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @ylecun @GaryMarcus

      How do we stand on "implementing reasoning with neurons" in 2018?

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    4. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing 21 Dec 2018
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      Blake Richards Retweeted Adam Santoro

      Making good progress! https://twitter.com/santoroAI/status/1017060254855630849 … https://twitter.com/santoroAI/status/1076033843080105986 … I would recommend paying attention to this stuff (which as @ylecun said, Geoff has been arguing for all along), because my bet: it's gonna settle this long running debate in the next few years.

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      Adam Santoro @santoroAI
      Our paper, Learning to make analogies by contrasting abstract relational structure, has been accepted to ICLR! Co-led with Felix Hill, @dgtbarrett, @arimorcos, and Tim Lillicrap. https://openreview.net/forum?id=SylLYsCcFm …
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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 21 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @tyrell_turing @Abel_TorresM @ylecun

      This does look interesting. But you can’t both train a system “to predict symbolic explanations” and argue that symbols are a waste of time. Over time, Hinton has taken two different, mutually exclusive positions at most only one can be correct.

      7:52 AM - 21 Dec 2018
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        2. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing 21 Dec 2018
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          In my personal conversations with him, he's always been consistent: you want to be able to do things like symbolic reasoning using distributed systems that learn. I think sometimes his true opinion gets obscured by the natural tendency we all have to frame things in binaries.

          1 reply 1 retweet 9 likes
        3. Blake Richards‏ @tyrell_turing 21 Dec 2018
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          Replying to @tyrell_turing @GaryMarcus and

          After all, I don't see how anyone can truly deny that humans do something like symbolic reasoning. What is math if not that?!

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        2. Adam Santoro‏ @santoroAI 21 Dec 2018
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          I think the argument is that symbolic *methods* are the "waste of time", not symbols (localist representations?) per se.

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        1. Dan Brickley‏ @danbri 21 Dec 2018
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          you can train a system to predict movie ratings and yet argue that movies are a waste of time... Symbolic communication and rules are an important phenomena *in the world*, and like cinema attendance, comes with predictable structure.

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