(Thread) On the heels of the recent @GaryMarcus & @ylecun Twitter "debate", here's one of my gripes. I find myself constantly frustrated in any deep learning vs. symbolic debate because symbol pushers tend to claim ownership over capacities like "reasoning".
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In the worst instances reasoning *capacities* and symbolic *mechanisms* are entirely conflated. In less pernicious instances reasoning capacities are presumed to require symbolic methods.
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Symbolic methods do indeed have properties that would be useful for reasoning, including a natural propensity for compositionality. But these useful properties are not "owned" by symbolic methods -- they are properties that learning-based methods can have too!
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And let's not forget the decades of history showing why symbolic methods are ultimately insufficient, with the symbol binding problem being near the top of the heap.
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Moreover symbolic methods aren't even adequate cognitive models for human reasoning! See the long history of work by Johnson-Laird and others who demonstrate the insufficiency of a logical calculus for explaining human reasoning.
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IMO, one of the most promising directions involves instilling learning-based methods (i.e., DL) with properties useful for reasoning. E.g., meta-learning for symbol binding (see our previous work on one-shot learning), or non-local inductive biases for better relational reasoning
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Replying to @santoroAI
i think learning for symbol binding might actually be sort of like what i have been advocating; if not, why not?
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @santoroAI
i think it would move the conversation forward if you were to answer this yourself. deepmind, one of the big DL labs, is pursuing a line of research that "uses symbols" in some sense. is your reaction "this is great -- but not enough DL research does this"?
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I keep mentioning eg @grefen’s work at DeepMind @littlebimble ‘cuz I like it.
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