also you are ignoring all the work the monte carlo tree search and related infrastructure contributed, apparently attributing the entirely solution to deep learning, which would be inaccurate
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
Not at all, I'm quite the fan of MCTS, but it isn't a variable. The convolutions were a key bit of prior knowledge, but also weren't variables. You claimed that symbolic manipulation would be required to move past perception, but I fail to see any symbolic representations here.
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
MCTS is a search procedure, whereas you seem to be mistaking it for tree-structured representations. That they both have "tree" in the name seems besides the point.
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Replying to @Zergylord
the procedure operates over variables, with lots of variable binding taking place. that’s what matters. (and as it happens at least in the original Nature paper parts of the tree itself were encoded, if i recall correctly.)
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
That is a very liberal definition of variable binding. That would encompass all planning procedures (e.g. s_{t+n} is bound to the state predicted in n steps). If wading into model-based RL is all you wanted, then every DRL researcher is already on board. Mission accomplished?
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Replying to @GaryMarcus @Zergylord
You are in a node (variable) and there is a number of alternatives for the next move. You switch to a new node (variable changed) by selecting an action. Thus you manipulated a variable. Does deep learning make you that blind?
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Replying to @demirlenk92 @Zergylord
don’t fully follow, but the question is about what is internal to the cognitive system solving some task, not what the external task is. again a bit subtle for twitter, same reference, essentially same point: algebraic 2&3
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Replying to @GaryMarcus
The Q-learner needs to have those alternative values be internal to the system; they are just so trivial to "bind" (1 output neuron per action to represent the state-action value) that no-one thinks of them as being symbols.
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you read mine, i read yours, and we meet in the middle?
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