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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Julian Togelius‏ @togelius 2 Dec 2018
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      Julian Togelius Retweeted Gary Marcus

      Without wanting to "take sides" in the silly-yet-interesting debate/tweetfight between @GaryMarcus and @ylecun: when reading Gary's article it's worth keeping in mind that the dismissal of symbolic AI by many in deep learning is pretty much a reversal of 30 years ago.https://twitter.com/GaryMarcus/status/1068897657530138629 …

      Julian Togelius added,

      Gary Marcus @GaryMarcus
      “The deepest problem with deep learning” & why it’s not good to confuse a snowplow & a school bus. Some reflections too long for Twitter on recent debate with @ylecun and others, w. additional discussion of ⁦@anh_ng8⁩ lab’s important recent results. https://link.medium.com/dHSKKYBsiS 
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    2. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 2 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @togelius @ylecun

      odd and perhaps mistaken claim. 30 years ago is precisely the last time time when proto-deep-learning advocates were writing papers about how (symbolic) linguistics was “alchemy”, just after the huge success in 1986 of the PDP volumes.

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    3. Julian Togelius‏ @togelius 2 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @ylecun

      I stand corrected - I was obviously not there. But was it not also the case that people from symbolic linguistics were initially very dismissive of neural net results?

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    4. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 2 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @togelius @ylecun

      yes. (see last tweet) animus on both sides.

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    5. Julian Togelius‏ @togelius 2 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @ylecun

      You obviously know much more about these episodes than I do - I'm at least one generation removed from these events, and young DL people today at least two. I just felt that perspective was missing in your article, and could help explain some of the bitter feeling.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 2 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @togelius @ylecun

      fair enough. it was already quite bitter when i was applying to grad school in early 1989, dating at least to Perceptrons but probably to the 50s when Minsky/McCarthy vs Rosenblatt went different directions.

      6:57 PM - 2 Dec 2018
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