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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 26 Nov 2018
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      I think I just figured out why @ylecun is so defensive: Samsung’s Starcraft classical-AI heavy bot is (so far) still better than Facebook’s ML system. Results, discussions, links here, h/t ⁦⁦@jackclarkSF⁩ http://www.cs.mun.ca/~dchurchill/starcraftaicomp/2018/aiide/ …

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    2. Yann LeCun‏ @ylecun 26 Nov 2018
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      I'm defensive? I don't need to be. But why are you so offensive? CherryPi (the FAIR StarCraft bot) is largely rule based too, with a bit of ML/RL. It's also open source. The Samsung bot is not "still better" than CherryPi since it didn't even exist until now.

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    3. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 26 Nov 2018
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      ha, i was kidding, but that’s a funny contrast to you yesterday: “If we are talking about Facebook and Google, it's all deep learning ... hard pressed to find any trace of symbolic AI in any operational code.”

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    4. Smerity‏ @Smerity 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @ylecun @jackclarkSF

      You do know that with your "just kidding" you're insulting the team who open sourced FB's StarCraft work, in front of all of your audience, forcing @ylecun to step in to defend their work as you didn't present it fairly? Stop making research a zero sum fight for your own benefit.

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    5. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @Smerity @ylecun @jackclarkSF

      but to clarify, @jackclarkSF’s headline said “Hand-written bots beat deep learning bots in annual StarCraft competition”

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    6. Jack Clark‏ @jackclarkSF 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @GaryMarcus @Smerity @ylecun

      Yes, which was the thrust of the emphasis of the two bots. The newsletter also includes a discussion of Facebook's bit which uses hybrid of RL and hand-written stuff as well

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 26 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @jackclarkSF @Smerity @ylecun

      go hybrids! :)

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        1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 26 Nov 2018
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          Thanks all for stimulating discussion; time to wind down. Sorry my joke re @ylecun & Starcraft misfired. If there’s interest, I will outline key points of agreement & disagreement @Medium. Also looking into BBS treatment per @MelMitchell1 as way of allowing all sides more depth.

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        2. Russ‏ @rmarcilhoo 26 Nov 2018
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          Yes, and maybe some efforts off-line to collaborate on papers, a la David Ha and Schmidhuber that started with a NeurIPS discussion between them.

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