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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 23 Nov 2018
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    Why not just code AGI myself in an afternoon? Because critical next step isn’t an algorithm per se, but a vast array of prior, abstract knowledge, AND a set of algorithms to leverage that. Those need to evolve together, and that requires a field, and not just an individual.https://twitter.com/hardmaru/status/1065778997978484736 …

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    hardmaru @hardmaru
    Many researchers argue over nuances about symbolic AI vs connectionism, and only talk about how things should be done. Why not just do it? Code up your algorithm to show what your approach can do, also outline what it can't do yet, and write a paper. Isn't that more constructive?
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      2. Ulrich Junker‏ @UlrichJunker 23 Nov 2018
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        That’s science vs engineering!

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      3. Yann LeCun‏ @ylecun 23 Nov 2018
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        No, that's speculation vs science.

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      1. Derya Unutmaz, MD‏ @Derya_ 23 Nov 2018
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        Totally agree with you on requiring a field for advancing AGI. In addition, I suggest Marvin Minsky’s Society of mind and the Emotion Machine books.

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      1. Paul Topping‏ @PaulTopping 23 Nov 2018
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        So how many afternoons do you need?

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      1. harry‏ @gaiaoplo 23 Nov 2018
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        I’m sorry, but was that how WE were made? Abstract knowledge leads you to the right algorithms, but is by no means a prerequisite for an AGI itself. It should be thought of as a field though, not an individual unit; you got that right.

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      2. Ivan Klyuzhin‏ @IvanKlyuzhin 23 Nov 2018
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        How will you know when you've made one? Have a conversation with it? What are the objective criteria for determining an AGI?

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      3. BablBrain‏ @BablBrain 23 Nov 2018
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        How many will we have "killed" accidentally by deletion before that point? ;)

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      1. Brian Knutson‏ @knutson_brain 23 Nov 2018
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        Sounds kind of like grad school...

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      1. Pat Inc; now waitlisting for early access.‏ @PatisNLU 23 Nov 2018
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        How human language representation works for a machine? It's one of the hardest problems on the planet. Equivalent to the science behind E=MC2? The secret's not more engineering tweaks or brute force ....... #AI #MachineLearning

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      2. Andrew Kemendo‏ @AndrewKemendo 23 Nov 2018
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        Would you consider a wide array of sensors as equivalent or a prerequisite at a minimum for that "vast array of prior, abstract knowledge?" I'd argue that we don't have nearly enough "sensory" data to even start to approach the General Intelligence problem.

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      3. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 23 Nov 2018
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        Agreed. IMHO what we humans call intelligence are those behaviors that allow us to survive and thrive in the real world; in short, the human-centric definition of intelligence assumes embodiment. And as such, alien species would have very different measures of intelligence.

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