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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 19 Aug 2018
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      Gary Marcus Retweeted Smerity

      You can’t just give OpenAI a mulligan on vision, if you want to claim superhuman performance. Not saying there is zero progess here but on the question of inducing a game from experience, and beating humans on a level playing field, it’s a step back compared to DQN on Atari.https://twitter.com/Smerity/status/1031248288958177280 …

      Gary Marcus added,

      Smerity @Smerity
      Replying to @alok_damle @GaryMarcus
      Hardcoded/pre-programmed bots were thoroughly defeated by @OpenAI Five. One of the DotA2 players in the most recent test match had joked for years that they'd never be beaten by a DotA2 bot. This is an advance even if it has "shortcuts" (which I don't agree are) due to that.
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    2. Andrey Kurenkov  🤖‏ @andrey_kurenkov 19 Aug 2018
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      Saying step back is definitely overly harsh. As OpenAI notes in their blog posts, this game is partially observable, continuous, non markovian, multi agent... it's hugely impressive they could scale up RL to deal with that and not reasonable to compare it to Atari.

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 19 Aug 2018
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      Yes, this part is reasonable, and a good characterization of what the advance is. But the notion that a system that can sidestep all the vision and knowledge issues and still be labeled superhuman is silly. It may have won the game, but it wasn’t a fair fight.

      11:58 AM - 19 Aug 2018
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        1. Andrey Kurenkov  🤖‏ @andrey_kurenkov 19 Aug 2018
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          Yep, as with any advance in AI the accomplishment should be noted while keeping in mind all the caveats that make human learning far far more impressive. Luckily media coverage has been getting better at noting the caveats, at least.

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