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CEO/Founder of http://Robust.AI ; cognitive scientist, and best-selling author. New book: http://Rebooting.AI : Building Artificial Intelligence We Can Trust

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    1. Patryk Laurent‏ @paklnet 5 Jun 2018
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      Invariance isn’t just over-rated, worse: enforcing invariance in a design can actually be harmful to general task performance. Avoid if possible. So I think I agree with you there, and raise you.

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    2. Rebel Science‏ @RebelScience 5 Jun 2018
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      Come on guys. Invariance is an absolute must. There can be no intelligence without it. The brain does not use lots of training samples to achieve it. The brain uses timing as a glue. Transformations of an object do not break invariance because the brain can predict future states.

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    3. Filip Piekniewski‏ @filippie509 5 Jun 2018
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      But invariance should be learned, not imposed as a prior. That is the point. Different signals have different invariances. Translation is just one of many...

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    4. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 5 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @filippie509 @RebelScience and

      why learned?

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    5. Filip Piekniewski‏ @filippie509 5 Jun 2018
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      Because I don't think we can easily tell what the invariances are that we'd like to put in (particularly higher up in the sensory hierarchy). The system needs to be constructed in a way that would allow for it to pick them up. See ferret cortical rewiring experiment.

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    6. Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 5 Jun 2018
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      I would think that we need some invariances innately, others to be acquired. If you are talking about Sur’s rewiring experiments, I don’t see the relevance

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    7. Filip Piekniewski‏ @filippie509 5 Jun 2018
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      There could be some innate invariances. But my guess is that majority are learned. Rewiring shows that the cortex can interpret completely different modality. Either these signals have the same invariances (doubt that) or cortex is able to accommodate many.

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    10. Filip Piekniewski‏ @filippie509 5 Jun 2018
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      There is also very limited space in the DNA strand to wire all that stuff in.There is certainly some stuff wired (fear of spiders etc), probably much of the brain stem connectivity, but not the cortex IMHO.Cortex is an amazing evolutionary invention which is extremely flexible

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      Gary Marcus‏ @GaryMarcus 5 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @filippie509 @RebelScience and

      But not as flexible as those Sur experiments would lead to think. They showed adaptation between two sensory areas doing similar things; never any successes doing “rewiring” swaps between eg visual areas and prefrontal areas.

      10:47 AM - 5 Jun 2018
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