@SamoBurja often, we can't know what people have chosen to become except by looking at their actions
@KarmaKaiser @SamoBurja by definition for VE to be an alternative to consequentialism virtue must sometimes make the world a worse place
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@KarmaKaiser@SamoBurja the whole world, including people's internal states -
@tipsfromkatee@SamoBurja Firstly, I think you're using such an amorphous definition of consequentialism here that it doesn't mean much. - 3 more replies
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@tipsfromkatee@SamoBurja I think we're mixing up causation and justification of reasons for action here. -
@KarmaKaiser@SamoBurja "must sometimes make the world a worse place on expectation", then - 3 more replies
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