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    1. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      Where does your certainty come from? I understand doubt in leader's statements, but claiming certainty? What motive would Iran have to fulfil the deal? They already got what they wanted in breaking the "blockade", now they want nuclear weapons for political power.

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    2. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      Even with no evidence, and just going by motives, I would expect Iran to continue developing nuclear weapons. It serves their purpose. Add to that evidence, and you should at least have some doubt in your mind. Whats up here? You seemed so adept at judging people's motives?

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    3. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      Motives are so much more accurate at assessing a situation than just believing one report or another. Do you disagree with their motives? (I'm really trying to understand where we diverge, because it seemed we had similar vies on so many issues)

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    4. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 May 2018
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      You seem to be basing your views on what you think Iran would do in a given situation. I don't think either of us could predict Iran's behaviour based on speculation alone, so I'm basing my views on what UN inspectors are saying.

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    5. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      well, then we have a huge disagreement on what is more trustworthy. UN is as trustworthy as Al-Jazeera reporting on Israel, whereas perceived motives are generally far more accurate. Neither can ever be a PROOF (which is why I'm still shocked at your certainty)

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    6. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 May 2018
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      By all means, if you can provide evidence that I'm wrong, I'll change my views...

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    7. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      The problem with evidence is that one has to trust it. confirmation bias is hard to overcome. I could not give you evidence that you would trust. The "evidence" you claim as "proof" is nowhere near anything you would trust if it were stating counter opinions.

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    8. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      I can provide reasoning, but that reasoning can't combat certainty.

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    9. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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      "the UN SAID" is proof, but "Bibi SAID" is not. Both are equal value evidence if you take them literally, but one you trust, the other you don't - thats because neither are proof, and you take motives into account. Motives are far more accurate than statements

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    10. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 May 2018
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      Israel is not party to the deal. The UN is. And the UN's views are backed up by the US military, and the EU, and the UNSC. What more do you need?

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      Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 May 2018
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      You know what the burden of proof is, right? Well, it's on you. If Iran has broken the terms of the pact, you must show what stipulation it has breached. Be specific.

      5:27 PM - 16 May 2018
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        2. Jon Saxon‏ @jonsaxon67 16 May 2018
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          So, you believe intelligence documents gathered by Israel are definitely faked?

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        3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 May 2018
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          I find it hard to believe, given the scope of the project outlined in the documents, that US intelligence or Iraqi intelligence or any other intelligence service would not have picked something up.

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