nerds are googling the definition of ad hominem to prove that my tweet is wronghttps://twitter.com/treylw89/status/980096023451373570 …
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nerds are googling the definition of ad hominem to prove that my tweet is wronghttps://twitter.com/treylw89/status/980096023451373570 …
jonathan nunn added,
One of my fave Twitter gripes is the way people use 'Ad Hominem' at each other. If I was rich I would buy Douglas Walton's book on AHs for everyone. Sure, personal attack is a kind of ad hominem but so is pragmatic inconsistency, which is often v dialectically relevant
Ad hominems are valid wherever ethics are valid. So, very valid in politics, but not in, say, purely epistemic arguments.
I would say wherever consistency is relevant. A nice eg (not obvs ethical) would be Zermelo pointing to the french analysts' use of axiom of choice(+equivalents) in their work while arguing against it theoretically
Would accusing them of inconsistency constitute an ad hominem attack though? I thought the fallacy was in extrapolating flaws of a person's character to their arguments. In a purely logical context, the words should not depend on the speaker.
Looks like the early modern view was making a distinction between arguments directed at content vs circumstances of argument (so including but not ltd to character). Think it's called the ex conessis view.
Hmm. Well, I can't pretend to know much about the early modern view, But the modern view of ad hominem seems to be that it aims to discredit an argument by attacking the arguer. It's invalid in logic, because that is unamenable to character, but valid in, e.g., political promises
I suppose what I've been trying to say is that this is a narrow reading of a historically richer notion.
Apologies to @demarionunn for derailing your normal comment about ad hominem
Sure. I assumed your initial point was about current usage. Anyway, it's been an interesting exchange, so thanks!
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