This reasoning is debunked here. (Of course, you won't accept it without a fight, but if you want to know what I think, it's probably better to read this rather than an endless back and forth in 280 chars): https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/01/why-the-citizen-militia-theory-is-the-worst-pro-gun-argument-ever/272734/ …
My point was that costs work both ways. Civilians with guns are more likely to go rogue than governments with guns (as the latter is at least regulated by rigorous bureaucracy). But this is where we're not seeing eye to eye.
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But as I said, it's clear we've both made up our minds. Sometimes both people can see the facts and interpret them in completely different ways. Since this is an ethical case, there is no real right or wrong, and we can't really educate each other, so further debate is pointless
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I’m pretty open to new lines of argument that I don’t feel I’ve exhausted to the extent I’m capable of exhausting. Fundamentally I want people to acknowledge the complexity involved, and that at the moment we’re tapped out on realistic top-down solutions. But yes, good talk

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