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    1. pangolin respecter‏ @EvanSandhoefner 29 Jan 2018
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      Measurement ease depends on open questions in philosophy of mind, which is why I called it an application question, but not much turns on that label. We can already measure happiness with some accuracy, & this will improve over time. Every system is vulnerable to individual bias.

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    2. pangolin respecter‏ @EvanSandhoefner 29 Jan 2018
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      Finally, I really can only get so far defending utilitarianism against an invisible rival system. One of the best arguments for u-ism is the way it absorbs other systems, which you can see in real time if you ask yourself honestly how you're making your judgments.

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    3. pangolin respecter‏ @EvanSandhoefner 29 Jan 2018
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      By the way, all of these arguments have been discussed at length in the literature already, going back to Bentham: http://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/bentham1780.pdf …

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    4. pangolin respecter‏ @EvanSandhoefner 29 Jan 2018
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      Excerpt from Bentham, link to full text abovepic.twitter.com/JbIZcvmkxc

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    5. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 29 Jan 2018
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      Yes, I'm aware of Bentham's work. The way I see it, any utilitarian system must avoid becoming monist (the sole arbiter of right and wrong), and must instead work in tandem with other frameworks, such as the golden rule, and various metrics of well-being conceptual & statistical

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    6. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 29 Jan 2018
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      It is a piece of the puzzle, not the whole solution.

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    7. pangolin respecter‏ @EvanSandhoefner 29 Jan 2018
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      It feels like we're almost agreeing, but I would stress that things like the golden rule & multiple metrics of well-being *fit inside* and *are justified by* utilitarianism. They're not bolted on from the outside, because the reason we use them at all *is utilitarian*.

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    8. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 29 Jan 2018
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      But one could easily find a contradiction between the golden rule and someone's interpretation of utilitarianism (it's always open to interpretation because it has no fixed metric): treat a rapist as you'd like to be treated? Let him walk free, have access to your home?

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    9. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 29 Jan 2018
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      Likewise, should we lock up someone who *might* be a rapist? Without the golden rule, someone could make a utilitarian case that the *potential* harm of rape to the many outweighs the discomfort of confinement to the one. Tyrants often have a utilitarian view (eggs, omelette).

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    10. brandonW‏ @bwheel333 29 Jan 2018
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      You referenced a straw man earlier...? You also seem determined to use emotionally charged topics like rape and murder to make your point. It probably feels good to you, that might be why you’re doing it, or it could be a ploy for moral “superiority.”

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      Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 29 Jan 2018
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      You accuse me of employing straw-men, and then resort to ad hominems. Great job.

      7:35 PM - 29 Jan 2018
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