But it was not the truth they sought (eschatological/cosmogonical/teleological). This is my point.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
They did actually seek real, factual truth - to a slightly different proposition. This is confusion, not a lack of interest in truth.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
You have a very weird definition of truth that is at odds with everyone else. If someone seeks truth, but instead finds something useful, then *the fact* that what they found useful does not make what they found any more true.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
You're trying really hard to misrepresent my position here. I obviously didn't say that them believing P is useful makes P true.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
You said, to paraphrase, that the fact that P is useful means that someone finding P is truthful. is that right?
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
That sentence makes no sense as far as I can tell. "P is useful" is a proposition. That's either true or false in reality.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
Okay, I'll rephrase. You think that someone arrives at the conclusion that something is useful in exactly the same way that they find it is truthful. Is that right?
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
No, one case entails an extra level of abstraction and confusion.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
You're going to have to clarify what you mean. Try to say what you are saying as simply as possible, because I'm having trouble making sense of what exactly you're trying to argue.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
I think I have already but it's a complex topic and I'm getting ready to head to the airport. Might have to revisit later.
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I'd only be interested in continuing this conversation if you can sum up what you're trying to argue clearly and succintly, because all this discussion really was for me was trying to guess what the hell you're saying.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
Ok well I feel I've been very clear so I'll appeal this to anyone else who may be reading. Have a good one.
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