But our minds are not inherently aware that P is useful, so we can't count it as an epistemological statement.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @Intrinsic29
Religious tribes of the past did not think to themselves, "Hmm, what I believe is not true, but it is useful". They actually believed what they believed.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
I'm not saying people never truly believe in God. But when they do, they believe it in the same way you believe any other proposition.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29 @G_S_Bhogal
They're just wrong because of bad reasoning. You're conflating simply being wrong with embracing alternative epistemology here imo.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
Well, being wrong in that way can be considered bad epistemology, no?
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
I don't think so. I think all attempts to frame alternative epistemologies miss the point. Truth is always the goal imo.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
I think you're conflating the desire for truth with the pursuit of truth. They're two different things.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
One can believe that they are interested in truth, but not take the relevant epistemic steps to discover truth. Someone who believes in Yahweh *thinks* they seek and have found the truth, but they didn't even attempt to find the truth - they found what was useful to them.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
Of course they attempted to find the truth. They just found the truth to a different proposition - that it was useful to them.
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But it was not the truth they sought (eschatological/cosmogonical/teleological). This is my point.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
They did actually seek real, factual truth - to a slightly different proposition. This is confusion, not a lack of interest in truth.
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Replying to @Intrinsic29
You have a very weird definition of truth that is at odds with everyone else. If someone seeks truth, but instead finds something useful, then *the fact* that what they found useful does not make what they found any more true.
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