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    Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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    Jordan Peterson, Nicholas Nassim Taleb and other popular thinkers contend that even if gods don’t exist, we still need religion, because it evolved to protect us from harms we don’t understand. I wrote about why they are wrong. @Rabbit_Hole_Maghttps://rabbitholemag.com/debunking-the-secular-case-for-religion/ …

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      2. ego‏ @egocv Apr 28
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        Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        Interesting article, thank you. The Oxford study refers to 'Moralizing gods', but Durkheim noted that religion only progresses to personified gods in complex societies. Might a simpler totemic religion not have proceeded the move to complex society?

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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        The Oxford study was cited as a rebuttal to the idea that moralizing religions were needed to solve the free-rider problem. Totemic religions may have preceded complex societies, but the question then arises: how would an amoral system have created complex societies?

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      2. NothingifnotCritical‏ @Monellarama Apr 28
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        Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        I think Christianity as a philosophy was revolutionary at the time and ushered in the idea of human dignity and value of individuals as moral agents. But it evolved more as a political system and became oppressive

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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        Replying to @Monellarama @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        I'm inclined to agree, and think this applies to all major religions. For instance, Islam was actually incredibly progressive for its time - the "four wives to 1 man" rule, widely regarded as barbaric, was actually an improvement on the pre-Islamic "infinite wives to 1 man" rule.

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      1. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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        Replying to @jeff_urizen @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        You really should read an article (not just half of it) before critiquing. It prevents your criticisms from completely missing the mark.

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      2. E.B.  ❄️‏ @stiritup15 Apr 28
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        Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        Great write-up and well referenced. The issue I have with the rejection of religion regards the “great works problem”. IMO, we need great works - like the pyramids, cathedrals, etc. Without an institution that connects us to the everlasting, what promote the great works?

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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        Replying to @stiritup15 @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        There is a small mosque on the site of the Taj Mahal. But the monument proper was not created as a tribute to any God; it was created as a tribute to the Emperor's favorite wife. So, to answer your question: love.

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      2. Alice Shairzay‏ @AliceShairzay Apr 28
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        Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @Rabbit_Hole_Mag

        Gosh, this was so interesting. I don't bookmark many articles for a re-read, but I bookmarked this one. Gurwinder Bhogal, I've never heard of you before, but I'm following you now. Thank you!

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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        Thanks for reading Alice, and welcome!

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      2. Vizi Andrei‏ @viziandrei Apr 28
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        I don't like the fact that you cherry-picked Nassim’s view on religion; I question whether you understand the fundamentals of his argument. If you want to read more about religion, I kindly suggest Mircea Eliade.

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal Apr 28
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        I don't feel I cherry-picked his views. I quoted him verbatim and actually tried to steel-man his claims by interpreting them as charitably as I could.

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