But if we're developing our environment into one that would push us to become who we want to be, then we are still the initiator of the chain of events that would eventually lead to our self-improvement ie the thing that triggered the cascade of change still came from within us
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Change only truly comes from within if libertarian free will exists, which I see no evidence for. But even if it does come from within, this fact, on its own, would be a poor philosophy to live by.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @chrys_aliss
You don't need to believe in free will for the rebuttal to work. Even if you were designing an non-sentient AI, you could imagine programming it to make determinations about choosing beneficial environmental factors that would be more auspicious causing feedback loops into its...
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Replying to @newbury_eric @chrys_aliss
The "programming" that you speak of comes from a source external to it (i.e. you), and is thus environmental.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @chrys_aliss
But wholly besides the point for all intents and purposes. Whether you are programmed or not, you act as if your choices are real.
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Replying to @newbury_eric @chrys_aliss
How you act is besides the point. We're talking descriptively, not prescriptively. In a deterministic universe, your choices come from a chain of causality that precedes your existence, so ultimately they come from the external world.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @chrys_aliss
Maybe, maybe not. We simply don't know. The universe might very well be compatiblist. There's simply too little information to say. At the very least, I'd only advise people to gain perspectives that enhance their autonomy and not diminish it as psychology has repeatedly shown...
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...this mindset to be far superior to a opposite.
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Replying to @newbury_eric @chrys_aliss
I prefer to believe what makes the most sense, regardless of its utility.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @chrys_aliss
I'd argue you're compartmentalizing. You're similar to a religious determinist who still acts on the assumption their decisions matter.
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I'd argue that your beliefs on this are closer to religion, as you choose to believe things that you find useful or comforting rather than what you genuinely believe to be true.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @chrys_aliss
I'm more like an agnostic. I know that I don't have the answer, in light of that fact, throwing out utility (even if prose only) would be pointless. I must act as if I'm autonomous. I might very well be autonomous.
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