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Connoisseur of antidepressants. Words about psychology, philosophy, politics.

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    1. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 Nov 2019
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      “Change comes from within” is a bad heuristic for self-improvement. We evolved to adapt to environmental pressures, so if you wish to develop as a person, develop your surroundings into an environment that will require you to become who you wish to be.

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    2. kaleidoscopic_brain‏ @chrys_aliss 16 Nov 2019
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      But if we're developing our environment into one that would push us to become who we want to be, then we are still the initiator of the chain of events that would eventually lead to our self-improvement ie the thing that triggered the cascade of change still came from within us

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    3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 16 Nov 2019
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      Change only truly comes from within if libertarian free will exists, which I see no evidence for. But even if it does come from within, this fact, on its own, would be a poor philosophy to live by.

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    4. Eric Newbury‏ @newbury_eric 17 Nov 2019
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      You don't need to believe in free will for the rebuttal to work. Even if you were designing an non-sentient AI, you could imagine programming it to make determinations about choosing beneficial environmental factors that would be more auspicious causing feedback loops into its...

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    5. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 17 Nov 2019
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      The "programming" that you speak of comes from a source external to it (i.e. you), and is thus environmental.

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    6. Eric Newbury‏ @newbury_eric 17 Nov 2019
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      But wholly besides the point for all intents and purposes. Whether you are programmed or not, you act as if your choices are real.

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      Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 17 Nov 2019
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      How you act is besides the point. We're talking descriptively, not prescriptively. In a deterministic universe, your choices come from a chain of causality that precedes your existence, so ultimately they come from the external world.

      2:58 PM - 17 Nov 2019
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        2. Eric Newbury‏ @newbury_eric 17 Nov 2019
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          Maybe, maybe not. We simply don't know. The universe might very well be compatiblist. There's simply too little information to say. At the very least, I'd only advise people to gain perspectives that enhance their autonomy and not diminish it as psychology has repeatedly shown...

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        3. Eric Newbury‏ @newbury_eric 17 Nov 2019
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          ...this mindset to be far superior to a opposite.

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