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    1. Heather E Heying‏ @HeatherEHeying 11 Jun 2019
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      Heather E Heying Retweeted Josh Owens

      Perfect encapsulation of a point widely missed: *Understanding* is not the same thing as *advocating for*. (aka the naturalistic fallacy) Indeed, we need to try to understand humanity’s worst motives, our ugliest behaviors, in order to have a better chance of minimizing them.https://twitter.com/mindrelic/status/1138499270162767873 …

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      Josh Owens @mindrelic
      Replying to @Halalcoholism @LFlinger @BretWeinstein
      Attempting to understand something isn't "making excuses".
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    2. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @HeatherEHeying

      Both you & Brett seem to be mischaracterising the criticisms of Brett's tweet. It's not that it advocated white nationalism, but that it gave the impression that white nationalism is all the fault of SJWs. It's a common cop out known as the soft bigotry of low expectations.

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    3. CreamyCentrist‏ @CreamyCentrist 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @HeatherEHeying

      I might (sincerely) have missed the part in the thread where SJWs are blamed for all of white nationalism. Also, if the term hadn't been used this would seem like a distinct and separate issue.

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      Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @CreamyCentrist @HeatherEHeying

      Bret's tweet gives the impression that the would-be-racist would not become a white nationalist if only the SJWs didn't say such mean things, thus placing the responsibility for white nationalism on the left. It's like blaming ISIS on western foreign policy (i.e. a cop out).

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      • CollaboRational mravantcentre but is she problematic?
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        1.  🤧 🌎‏ @atthatmatt 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @CreamyCentrist @HeatherEHeying

          Everyone understands that Twitter's format strongly encourages brevity right up until they run into a tweet they'd rather misinterpret. Then it's like super obvious that the tweeter was "implying" something.

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        2. JimmyRobotics‏ @ajrowebot 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @CreamyCentrist @HeatherEHeying

          I took him 2 mean sumthing like 1)white tribalism is bad,2)identity politics can contribute 2 tribal formations based on race,3)racial tribes tend 2 treat other tribes as inferior,4)if race-based tribes treat whites as inferior,it stands 2 reason that white tribalism may increase

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        3. JimmyRobotics‏ @ajrowebot 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @ajrowebot @G_S_Bhogal and

          I agree that the way he says it does sound like the low expectations of SB argument. It is just a 'tribalism is bad, and it can lead to more intense tribalism' argument. I disagree w lowering the bar on wat we "should" expect of ppl. H/E,history may speak 2 wat we "could" expect

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        1. CreamyCentrist‏ @CreamyCentrist 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @HeatherEHeying

          I would also be careful with trying to throw back "say mean things" at the Right. Both "sides" are not treated equally in the media and this has to be acknowledged. I have two white boys. Openly expressing hatred for their existence is completely acceptable.

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        2. Matthew Pirkowski‏ @MattPirkowski 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @CreamyCentrist @HeatherEHeying

          Gives *you* the impression. I didn’t get that impression. This exemplifies the danger of over-generalizing our own subjective perceptions. I could just as easily characterize your words as “giving the impression” that you only wish to focus upon one side of the feedback loop.

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        3. Matthew Pirkowski‏ @MattPirkowski 12 Jun 2019
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          But is that how you likely feel about what you’re saying? Probably not. Same goes for your lensed interpretation of Brett’s words. Part of what you see in his statement is merely a reflection of your own prior perceptions, yet you speak as if there’s only one interpretation.

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        1. CreamyCentrist‏ @CreamyCentrist 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @G_S_Bhogal @HeatherEHeying

          That first sentence is not fair after the word "thus". The idea is that open hate towards this group will exacerbate the problem. Western foreign policy massively *affects* ISIS. I would not endorse that tweet as written but I don't think we're talking about fundamental causes.

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