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    Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 26 May 2019
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    I see many Brexiteers are rejoicing at the Brexit Party’s performance in the European elections. Hopefully, now that they've experienced an EU election, they'll finally see the folly of justifying Brexit by claiming the EU is run by “unelected bureaucrats”.

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      2. Knight of Ēalōnshire  🇬🇧‏ @PatOfLancs 26 May 2019
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        These elected MEPs are about as powerful as the Lords in the UK - revisers and blockers, not drivers.

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 26 May 2019
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        I assume that by drivers you're talking about the Commission. It has the power to propose legislation, yes, but only within a framework agreed on by elected national govts. Further, the legislation must be approved by the elected members of the EU parliament.

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      2. TB‏ @gxhwqf 26 May 2019
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        This doesn't follow. Elections in and of themselves don't prove that an institution is democratic.

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      3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 26 May 2019
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        "Democratic" is a very nebulous and subjective term; we could argue for days about whether the EU is less or more democratic than the UK. I prefer to focus my analysis on more precise, objective, and easily (dis)provable terms like "unelected".

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      1. M Stone‏ @M_Stone969 26 May 2019
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        The EU parliament does not govern the EU.

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      1. p‏ @holzprueghel 26 May 2019
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        The EU is an awkward halfway house. A purely multilateral treaty would be preferable for what it actually does. If you want to go into the direction of a Federal Superstate, then the influence of national governments/leaders on the EU level needs to be weakened much more.

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      1. Dutch Mink 🦦‏ @BobLockout 26 May 2019
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        If the Brexiteers are anything like the Trumpiteers, they are incapable of seeing their own folly

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      1. homosapien‏ @HumanLifeForm_ 26 May 2019
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        Doesn’t change the fact they’re elected to a parliament which cannot, constitutionally, propose legislation. That honour remains with the unelected Commission.

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