Strong ideas positively delight in debate; weak ones avoid it at all costs. Use that as a guide when you assess what is likely true or false. Do the people who promote the ideas want to debate, try to debate, thrive in debate? Or do they silence and intimidate others?
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Replying to @EPoe187 @G_S_Bhogal
All things being equal, yeah, strong ideas work better in debate than weak ones The problem is, that nothing is ever equal. No debate is ever an even playing field. People aren't robots and perfect information doesn't exist You're either naive or malicious. But wrong regardless
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Replying to @thatyetidude @EPoe187
Agree with your first two paragraphs. Have no idea how you arrived at the third.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
I was pressed for character space, but what other options are there? If you're presenting an attempt to legitimize "debate me" culture, despite the fact that its been totally debunked you either haven't seen the debunkings or you have and are pushing it anyway
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Replying to @thatyetidude
So, let me get this straight: you believe that we should not debate people, but just silence and intimidate opponents instead?
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
What I'm saying is that bad ideas flourish just as well as good ideas, if not better, in debate and as such there are legitimate reasons to deny a platform or equal standing to people or ideologies beyond "Oh you're just scared they'll beat you"
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Replying to @thatyetidude
The problem with this line of thinking is that it results in a completely arbitrary definition of good idea and bad idea. If you won't judge the worth of an idea by how well it can be defended, then the ideas you choose to defend are based on nothing but whim.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
Which is why I haven't made a delineation between what is a good idea or bad idea. I'm not saying X is good Y is bad, because it's personal. Just that X can spread as well as Y, no matter if you think X and Y are swapped and even if X is the stronger idea
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Replying to @thatyetidude
I'm wondering how you determine a good idea (or "strong" idea) from a bad idea if not by the arguments made by its most convincing proponents.
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
By not grading them as strongest or weakest proponents Listening to every person suggesting every idea, cross checking it against other ideas, my own experiences, etc and building it into a gesalt People have biases. It's inescapable. So I just build my own version with mine
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Right. So then, what if the world decides that your beliefs are bad, and therefore not worth debating?
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Replying to @G_S_Bhogal
I would like you to answer a couple of my questions, if you have the time. But regardless That's not what I'm arguing for though. I haven't advocated anywhere for widespread cancelling of ideologies
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