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    1. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 1 Sep 2018
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      Even though I no longer identify with the left, and have never identified with the right, I don’t like being called centrist, as it validates the outdated left-right continuum that I want to escape. In the spirit of today, I’d rather be known as “political spectrum non-binary.”

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    2. Daniel Baryon‏ @apeirophobic 1 Sep 2018
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      *sigh* This doesn't actually make sense, dude. You have political opinions, they place you on a spectrum. Whether you identify with "the left" or "the right" has no material impact on what stance your political opinions objectively correlate with.

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    3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 1 Sep 2018
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      Where on the spectrum would you place someone who espouses UBI?

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    4. Daniel Baryon‏ @apeirophobic 1 Sep 2018
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      A UBI is an economic intervention, making it a left of center policy, at minimum. Some right-wingers have advocated it, meaning that they have conceded some market freedom, making them more left-wing than those who advocate only a Laissez-Faire capitalism

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    5. Carl Gombrich‏ @carlgomb 1 Sep 2018
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      No reason it's a spectrum as in a line. At the very least it could be a triangle like something like the endomorph, mesomorph, ectomorph topology of people (not saying this is correct, just as a model)

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    6. Daniel Baryon‏ @apeirophobic 1 Sep 2018
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      Most people regard it as a two-dimensional graph (like this https://www.politicalcompass.org/ ). But the triangle makes no sense in this context, because the positions are diametrically opposed conceptually. Left: Worker rights, economic intervention Right: Owner rights, Laissez-Faire

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    7. Carl Gombrich‏ @carlgomb 1 Sep 2018
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      Isn't the point of this graph that some things unite/divide political right and left? And increasingly a range of views, e.g. brakes in immigration, can be espoused by both rightists and leftists. In sum, the one dimensional spectrum doesn't work anymore for several reasons.

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    8. Daniel Baryon‏ @apeirophobic 1 Sep 2018
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      The thing that Gurwinder has sought to prove is that the "left right spectrum is invalid." It isn't. It describes what I have laid out above. You cannot pretend to not have a placement on that spectrum, you can only include further placement on other axes for specificity.

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      Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 1 Sep 2018
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      What you have laid out above are parameters of your own invention. the fact that you believe UBI is inherently "left", when most people don't, proves that.

      2:31 PM - 1 Sep 2018
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        2. Daniel Baryon‏ @apeirophobic 1 Sep 2018
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          I've explained very clearly how the two positions are defined, have carefully classified my point, and demonstrated how it is correct. The Appeal to the Popular seems a weak rebuttal.

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        3. Gurindoor‏ @G_S_Bhogal 1 Sep 2018
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          We're talking about the meaning of words here, so of course how the majority defines them is relevant. Since you define words differently to how others, including experts, define them, it's probably not worth arguing with you further.

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