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Tax accountant by day; sax VGM cover artist by night. Epee fencing, fringe Mormon blogging, and a YouTube Product Expert, I guess.

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    subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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    So, wanted to do another little thread on @TeamYouTube 's approach to copyright. So, when it comes to DMCA takedowns, YT is pretty hands off to preserve its safe harbor. Content ID, on the other hand, is a voluntary solution between copyright claimants and YT...and yet...https://twitter.com/rousseaumusique/status/1084092568000880641 …

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    ‼️I NEED YOUR HELP‼️ In less than a week, my channel may be GONE. @LudovicoEinaud @Believemusic_UK @artponderosa pic.twitter.com/nmuGydgsZM
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      2. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        YT still tries to mostly stay out of these fights. As everyone knows, content ID isn't perfect, and one of the places where it's really imperfect is with classical music. While classical music compositions may often be public domain, sound recordings aren't.

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      3. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        so what if you have a bunch of classical musicians performing faithful covers of classical music, and one of them happens to submit to a company who has access to Content ID, such as @Believemusic_UK ? You get claims -- incorrect ones.

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      4. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        Because YT mostly stays out of it, disputes and appeals are judged by the claimant, so it depends on how willing they are to recognize: "Hey, this isn't the same recording." Since YT doesn't get involved, lots of abuses are possible.

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      5. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        So, what's the recourse for a YouTuber like @rousseaumusique ? Well, essentially, content ID and DMCA is like a game of legal chicken...it goes back and forth and back and forth with escalating consequences until one side backs down.

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      6. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        In this case, Believe has rejected the disputes, and will probably reject the appeals. This means they may issue a DMCA takedown which would give Rousseau copyright strikes. From there, Rousseau can counternotify, and Believe's next move would be to give in or to file lawsuit.

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      7. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        Lawsuits are expensive for everyone, and Believe probably should realize that they've made a bad claim. So, the chances of them actually suing probably should be low. Without a lawsuit, the takedown lapses, video goes back up, strikes are removed, and Rousseau wins.

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      8. subversiveasset‏ @GASpriggs Jan 12
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        But what happens to Believe? They have pretty much no penalty, because it also hasn't gone to court. YouTube probably *could* do something about people who misuse its voluntary content ID system, but this is fairly rare.

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