Honestly I felt the same way, only more strongly, for his "Ragnarok = a critique of colonialism" analysis, but I felt I'd just be shouted down. That movie didn't come anywhere close to dramatizing those themes enough for them to be what it was "about".
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Replying to @artfulmegalodon @FilmCritHULK
Agreed. I prefer the more grounded pieces he writes but it doesn't hurt to read the ones I find a bit outlandish. Still enjoyable reads even if I think he's stretching. I only was vocally critical this time because of the wider circus of political "analysis" of the movie already.
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Replying to @Zwok_ @artfulmegalodon
Real talk? Y'all need to realize there's a difference between "lip service screen time" and "what it's about." It's literally the main villain's goal. The knowledge brings about change in two characters - it is at the center of a relationship between the main and his father -
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It is literally the driving force of the movie and the place the entire population come to a reckoning for, thus experiencing the notion of displacement - even in the Skaar, you have a colonial oppression system, wholely symbolic of slavery cities
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It's in the DNA of the entire film. It's right there. And here's someone else's great write up on it. https://www.villagevoice.com/2017/11/10/thor-ragnarok-marvel-from-a-postcolonial-perspective/ …
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I know Taika talks around it and makes jokes in interviews but he also talks about it forthrightly just as much. This was the clear intention of the film at every single level. He also wanted to make it hilarious.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK @artfulmegalodon
I read the article. And the fact is that everything there isn't as deep as you and that author so desperately want it to be. There are other films tackling these issues with much more nuance and blunt realism. (1/3)
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You are simply applying a framework of your own world view over the skeleton of superhero movies and saying, "yeah, that sorta fits" before writing a personal diatribe under the banner of "film analysis". (2/3)
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Like I've said before, anyone could take either of these movies and manipulate them to fit their own world view, and your excellent prose as a writer is just masking the fact that you're grasping at straws for things that are primarily in your head. (3/3)
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None of what I'm saying is to invalidate your articles in any way. Frankly, analysis that deep is a form of art itself and I can appreciate it on it's own merit. But tying it to a blockbuster film with as surface level a message as "violence is bad let's be nice" is silly.
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It's like people who walked out of Up and said "what it's just a cartoon." that's literally what you are doing.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK @artfulmegalodon
Obviously not. If we're being honest, the average Pixar movie has more to pick apart thematically than the average Marvel movie does.
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Replying to @Zwok_ @artfulmegalodon
And this isn't your average marvel movie. That's the whole point.
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