I saw plenty of normal, sane people love, be lukewarm to, or despise SW8. I think that's interesting but two weeks later we're largely reacting to the 47-minute fan edit.
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Replying to @David_Nataf
I literally haven't seen a single reasonable damn argument.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK
I can see why you'd be more worried about that given your success, which has the side effect of making you a troll magnet. But I know some of these people well, many of whom don't participate online fandom, I'm confident that they're not recycling toxic shit.
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Replying to @David_Nataf @FilmCritHULK
I liked (did not love) the movie, anyway here are some critiques I found reasonable. 1) Prank calling the first order shouldn't work as an attack strategy. Aren't these fights meant to be metaphors of WWII naval battles? 2) No explanation for Snoke. We'll have to read the books.
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Replying to @David_Nataf
how in gods name are either of those valid story criticisms and not 1) im arguing about nonsense logic over joking tone and 2) i wanted more nonsense backstory to this character that doesn't need it
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK
The first one was distraction and pulled me and others out of the film, as it was very unnatural. As for #2, I think Snoke warranted an explanation, he restored the empire, he's apparently a much stronger force user than everybody else, etc.
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Replying to @David_Nataf
Seriously dude. Both of those things are inane and have literally nothing to do with compelling storytelling. Just post-script logic.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK
I disagree. In general I think that bad, unnatural jokes are very distracting. As for Snoke, the previous movies had explicitly established Anakin as the strongest known force user, and Luke as his equal. The fact that Snoke is vastly stronger than everyone else is confusing.
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Replying to @David_Nataf
They're not bad or or unnatural. They're hilarious. The reason people get upset about jokes that are "too silly" is because they want a movie to be SUPER SERIOUS AND INDULGENT. which is what i was criticizing.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK @David_Nataf
It's wanting films to make you powerful and indulge your bullshit instead of be entertaining. And it's always been this way. It's why some people demand nolan serousness over marvel fun.
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Again, I'm going to be hard on you because you should know this by now.
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