That's been the case since RotJ: Remember they blew up the Death Star... well it's back. Remember Han was left for dead... well he's not. Remember the love triangle with Luke/Leia/Han... two of them are siblings.
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Replying to @kzap333
When in god's name was Han left for dead? The movie ends with them going after him.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK @kzap333
yeah, and they spend the first third of the film saving him-- and entire scenes are dedicated to the sibling stuff and romantic recalibration... they're revelations that characters actually deal with
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Replying to @robpilk @FilmCritHULK
For the record I'm not against undoing plot. Vader turning out to be Luke's father undid what we knew about the characters from the previous film but it worked. It's not always a bad move, it depends how it's handled. Retconning isn't automatically bad or good.
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Replying to @kzap333
Again, this might be semantics but watch the way you use the word "undid" or even retconning because you're lumping it in with basice plot-turns and those are not the same at all.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK
I'm using them interchangeably because surely a 180° plot-turn is the same as "undoing" something. If something is destroyed in book 1 & rebuilt in book 2, then the author is undoing it's destruction by having characters rebuild it. I'm not trying to be snarky, just understand.
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Replying to @kzap333 @FilmCritHULK
if book two is about rebuilding something and the tolls and challenges of that for the characters, it’s not “undoing” if it’s already rebuilt on page one, it’s a “undid”
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Replying to @robpilk @FilmCritHULK
If it was rebuilt on page 1, I agree it would be "undid", if it takes a book to happen & changes the chacters it's "undoing" & you could say it was "undone" by the time we get to book 3. This really is semantics now.
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Replying to @robpilk @FilmCritHULK
We're litterally debating the meaning of the word "undo", that's textbook semantics.
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This is the most meta semantics convo ever because when someone says "it's just semantics" it means we're arguing a niggling point that doesn't effect the actual meaning whereas we have now got into an actual usage argument.
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Replying to @FilmCritHULK
It should be a law of the internet: On a long enough timeline all augments become about semantics & then about the semantics of semantics. This is entropy.
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