FatMan on Twitter: "I know it's a valid concept. You're not applying it correctly. You take obvious facts and spin them in a manner that softens the optics for TFL despite malfeasance being very obvious. As the kids say, all you do is 'psyops'. A key component of which is playing both sides.… https://t.co/lzu7Mp6dxm"

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Yuri Popovich‏ @Liqueurium Jun 1

Replying to @FatManTerra

As you can see, @stablechen is also one of those who knew. Basically, this is to be expected.

5 replies 2 retweets 27 likes

cilliam when ‏ @stablechen Jun 1

Replying to @Liqueurium @FatManTerra

what does "knowing" imply ? everybody who shut off their nodes knew I did not profit off the halt, simply put

8 replies 0 retweets 22 likes

FatMan‏ @FatManTerra Jun 1

Replying to @stablechen @Liqueurium

Maybe it wasn't you, but someone made those massive insider trades right before the halt, and if you had any good in you you'd be interested in figuring out who that was. You should have been the one sending me these chats, not the other validators.

7 replies 6 retweets 57 likes

cilliam when ‏ @stablechen Jun 1

Replying to @FatManTerra @Liqueurium

sure but that's hard to know and that's a risk present in any group entrusted to power - much harder when there's 130 people that need to make a quick decision the alternative is broadcast to the world they're going to halt the chain and give an opportunity to attackers

9 replies 2 retweets 24 likes

FatMan‏ @FatManTerra Jun 1

Replying to @stablechen @Liqueurium

You're right, there's not many good ways to carry it out. I can't fault you on that. My two main gripes are TFL lying about it and the insider trades taking place. TFL lying is par for the course, but I really think it's important to hold the insider traders accountable.

5 replies 5 retweets 42 likes

cilliam when ‏ @stablechen Jun 1

Replying to @FatManTerra @Liqueurium

yes and yes, but why the personal attacks and baseless accusations on me and my validator opportunistically profiting off doing our duty to protect the network? it's hard to know who did profit as the group quickly expanded and the information run amok and logs won't help

7 replies 0 retweets 19 likes

FatMan‏ @FatManTerra Jun 1

Replying to @stablechen @Liqueurium

You have been personally attacking me, making fun of my sources, outright lying, and spinning things in TFL's favour for the past several weeks. I'm not personally attacking you, but I must say that I highly doubt your integrity based on the things you do & people you frat. with

11 replies 7 retweets 63 likes

cilliam when ‏ @stablechen Jun 1

Replying to @FatManTerra @Liqueurium

I've only attacked your premature inference and jumping to conclusions Can you give examples where I've lied, I'd like to see I've not made fun of your sources, at most I've called it hearsay, which technically they are I just offer alternative interpretations

4 replies 0 retweets 23 likes

FatMan‏ @FatManTerra Jun 1

Replying to @stablechen @Liqueurium

'Alternative interpretations' is another lovely spin - remember when you called my Kernel Labs deductive thread (leading to tax evasion) 'jumping to conclusions' despite Korean tax officials literally fining them for tax evasion? Infuriating, but you're good at what you do NGL

6 replies 7 retweets 44 likes

cilliam when ‏ @stablechen Jun 1

Replying to @FatManTerra @Liqueurium

alternative interpretations is a valid concept, ask any data scientist or judge in the pursuit of "truth" - should we not give consideration to them ? proving intent is a difficult calculus i also admit when TFL has been shady, don't forget

3 replies 0 retweets 26 likes

FatMan‏ @FatManTerra Jun 1

Replying to @stablechen @Liqueurium

I know it's a valid concept. You're not applying it correctly. You take obvious facts and spin them in a manner that softens the optics for TFL despite malfeasance being very obvious. As the kids say, all you do is 'psyops'. A key component of which is playing both sides.

2:27 PM - 1 Jun 2022