Your being,& the external world that is contained within it as you experience it,is inextricable from totality of "you".Might as well take ownership of that since this is a single choice exam to which we accept the answer, of what is continuously revealed,by fact of our being. /2
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That's all nice and well, but none of this negates the truth of suffering, and if someone finds that truth to be too much to bear, then it is immoral to try to convince them otherwise. But, again, as I said, I'm not actually suicidal. I was using this to make a point.
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Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @MimeticValue
"If someone finds that truth to be too much to bear" is not the finding-so in itself an act of free choice? "Nothing is good or bad, only thinking makes it so..." Therefore, it cannot be immoral to discuss the possibility of re-orienting one's attitude and accepting the /1
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suffering as the worthwhile cost of being, for being and experiencing is a good in itself. I suppose I take a leap of faith in believing so. /2
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Aristotle is an influence here in this leap. Existence is a good in itself, perhaps because every being is a potential for further good and flourishing according to the creator's design. /3
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Replying to @randodave @Failed_Buddhist
I think suffering is important, but existence is more important. Existence is suffering + non-suffering.
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Existence is fundamental, the necessary "stage" upon which "good" and "bad" are able to emerge, without which they will not. There is no good or bad without existence, and so to eliminate existence is not to correct the imbalance of badness/suffering to goodness, but to /1
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extinguish the scale which measures them. /2
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The decision to extinguish the scale (suicide) should actually be made "meta" to any reading the scale of suffering/nonsuffering provides. There is no factual or rational information which will aid in making this decision. /3
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When suffering becomes unbearable, all of that Buddhist and Stoic philosophy becomes utterly meaningless - the only priority becomes ending suffering, semantics be damned. I appreciate your concern, but as I said, I'm not actually suicidal.
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