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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield @PashaKamyshev

      @Meaningness is the only one I'm aware of who's actively trying to solve this issue.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @MimeticValue @michaelgarfield and

      No he doesn't. He jumped into the septic tank and then devoted his life's work to disinfecting as much as he can. But I don't see the point in jumping into the septic tank if you want to get clean, other than as a spectacle for others that want to study cleaning techniques.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue and

      Septic tank maintenance, as you put it, and legitimate tantra that doesn't mind hanging out in the charnel grounds and embraces the fullness of human experience...how can you be sure you know the difference?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @MimeticValue and

      Very different levels. Do you play with your mind by using all available stimuli or do you submit to the injection of beliefs without possibility of evidential support?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue and

      Sounds like you are using the terms religion and blind faith interchangeably, which does extraordinary violence to the accumulated wealth of wisdom and symbolically encoded insight stored in and transmitted by the world's traditions...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @MimeticValue and

      Yes, there are evil cults that plunge the other half of the world into centuries of darkness, and wise religions that enlighten my half of the world with centuries of insight. :)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue and

      That sounds very black and white - and if I'm not mistaken, tolerance for ambiguity is a hallmark of Kegan's stage 4 and (even more so) stage 5...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @MimeticValue and

      Yes, you easily discover that there is not a single valid narrative but a map of possible truths. But the ambiguity does not extend to "perhaps we can go back to Newtonian physics" or "perhaps people talking to burning bushes have access to a deeper level of cosmic truth".

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield and

      I don't think anyone was advocating talking to a burning bush - that's pretty clearly reductio ad absurdum. Just because a system has some obviously false elements doesn't mean that the entire system, or the people who use the system, have nothing else to offer.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @michaelgarfield and

      Obviously. They just don’t have any claim to the null hypothesis.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield and

      I'm not sure what you mean by that.

      3:50 PM - 3 May 2018
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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @michaelgarfield and

          Most of western science and philosophy is still secretly refuting the null hypotheses of creation, objective transcendental source of meaning and dualism. The problem is not in the possible acceptance, but in the mere deference to these claims.

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        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield and

          Not all gnostic teachings posit creation, objective transcendental meaning, or dualism. In fact, many systems explicitly reject all of those things (e.g. Dzogchen or Madhyamaka).

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @michaelgarfield and

          The problem with gnostic knowledge is not its content, but the positive confidence without evidence. We can have as much content as we want, but must only assign confidence to them according to the evidential support, which esoteric practice and religion reject.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield and

          The claim that gnostic knowledge is inherently rejecting of observable evidence is just not true. You can find competent teachers who won't ever ask you to believe anything. They will give you specific instructions on how to use your attention, and ask you to see what happens.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Plinz and

          Certain kinds of knowledge are inherently experiential: the only evidence you can possibly get for them is through experience. If I said that you can feel pain on your head, the only way to know that I'm right is to hit yourself on the head and remove all doubt that this is true

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Plinz and

          That's not to say contemplatives never make claims without evidence. Far from it. Scientists also make claims without evidence. What makes science great is that it doesn't matter who makes the claim. What matters is whether their results are reproducible.

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