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Human, student, non-Buddhist Buddhist, intellectual masochist. Confident only of my own ignorance. Don't believe anything I say.

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    1. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @MimeticValue @Plinz @PashaKamyshev

      Every stage has its supposedly good reasons for skipping or circumventing spiritual practice so this is not unique to stage 4, but spiritual bypassing is pathological, not healthy. There are healthy forms of 4th order spiritual inquiry.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @MimeticValue and

      Specifically, qualitative data can still be regarded as data and inquiry can be of exterior or interior phenomena. Just because we had a traumatic dissociation in the west doesn't mean science and spirituality are incompatible by default.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @MimeticValue @PashaKamyshev

      The main reason is that all readily available forms of spirituality seem to be filled to the brim with parasitic mind viruses. Spiritual practitioners routinely ask students to leave their rational capacity at the doorstep, and embrace the destruction of their epistemology.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield @PashaKamyshev

      @Meaningness is the only one I'm aware of who's actively trying to solve this issue.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @MimeticValue @michaelgarfield and

      No he doesn't. He jumped into the septic tank and then devoted his life's work to disinfecting as much as he can. But I don't see the point in jumping into the septic tank if you want to get clean, other than as a spectacle for others that want to study cleaning techniques.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue and

      Septic tank maintenance, as you put it, and legitimate tantra that doesn't mind hanging out in the charnel grounds and embraces the fullness of human experience...how can you be sure you know the difference?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @Plinz and

      I don't see this as an issue to be solved. There are a lot of people, however, working to dispel the toxic misunderstanding that science and spiritual inquiry are incompatible. Many of them work from within their native religion, many have abandoned all trappings of religion.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @michaelgarfield @MimeticValue and

      You cannot find truth while using a gnostic interface. Religion is an interface to destroy the ability to find truth, in the service of social order.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @michaelgarfield and

      How do you define "religion" in this context?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
      Replying to @MimeticValue @michaelgarfield and

      Religion refers to - charismatic narratives that install a social OS on the host mind (teachings), - the stance of the host (faith, submission, identification), - the maintenance institution (church), - the resulting cult itself (religiously permeated society or subculture).

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
      Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue and

      You can arbitrarily assign the label "religion" to any entire system and then use this definition of religion to assert that the system is useless or dangerous. I don't think any of these bullet points describe the aspects of tantra that people like @Meaningness find valuable.

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @MimeticValue and

          I did not do that! Religion is neither useless nor just dangerous. It is simply the way most of our civilization was organized for most of the time, and provided the structure in which most people still think today. I don't claim that everyone should adopt my feeble ways instead!

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @Plinz @MimeticValue and

          Alright, thanks for clarifying. You also said: >You cannot find truth while using a gnostic interface. Can you elaborate?

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @MimeticValue and

          The universe does not expose an interface that contains a manual to its API, comments to the source code or tutorial instructions for novice or expert players. There is no source that could give revelations. There is only what one can figure out using reason and observation.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue May 3
          Replying to @Plinz @Failed_Buddhist and

          Agreed, but are there tools that exist other than reason and observation?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz May 3
          Replying to @MimeticValue @Failed_Buddhist and

          Can you observe or infer any?

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        7. End of conversation
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        2. Michael Garfield  🌿‏ @michaelgarfield May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @Plinz and

          I like doing this with "Science" and its admissable evidence (the sacred text of the "five" senses) & its priests ("experts" in an age of info-quakes, when expertise is impossible) & its churches (academic institutions that bind everyone in funding games). ;) jk I 💗 #science

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @michaelgarfield @Plinz and

          How dare you slander the Holy name of Science? Heretic! Burn him!

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @michaelgarfield and

          tfw some of the most interesting people I've recently encountered on twitter are all in the same thread... this is the birth of a new Illuminati. When are we taking over the world? There's no God but meta-rationality, and Kegan is his prophet?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Failed Buddhist‏ @Failed_Buddhist May 3
          Replying to @MimeticValue @michaelgarfield and

          I can barely keep my own life organized, let alone take over the world. Though I am Jewish, so I'm particularly qualified to do so.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue May 3
          Replying to @Failed_Buddhist @michaelgarfield and

          As @jordanbpeterson says, "To take over the world, one must start by cleaning one's own room. Conquer the world one room at a time. Be the order you wish to see in the world."

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        7. End of conversation

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